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I currently work for a medium-large (~500 employees) Italian company as a Linux developer. I work in a team of 8 people, most of them are really awesome and really friendly, the day life is good and so is the comfort that the company offers.



To reach the office I have to drive around 75km per day, on alternating weeks (I share the car with a colleague), so around 750km per month just to go to and from work. My salary is ~15% less than the Italian average for the position I cover.



A couple of days per month I also work for another company, way smaller (around 10 employees) which is 10km away from my place. There I work with a guy that is a consultant for the first company. We work quite well together. The office is often almost empty since more than half of the team work in a different city.



Recently the new company asked me to join them as a full-time developer, with a salary that is almost double my current one.



I don't know exactly what to do and what I should take into account to choose what to do.



I feel guilty leaving my current team knowing the difficulties we are facing right now (mostly because the team is too small for the amount of work).



(Of course I can earn more money and gain more free time in the new job.)



With the information I'm sharing with you, what would you do in term of thoughts or even decision?



Should I have concern for my previous workplace, when considering a new job?



Some extra info: I've worked at the first company since January 2018 and I'm almost 23 years old.










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    You'll need to consider what is most important to you, and make your decision accordingly. One thing I can offer is that the chance to double your salary doesn't come along every day.

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    The question at heart here is really "Should I have concern for my previous workplace, when considering a new job?" It's a good question and not a dupe.

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    If the current team is too small to handle the workload, that is a problem created by top management trying to cut corners. You won't be able to fix that, and you shouldn't even consider it. When you are top management, get paid like it, and have equity, then you should consider that.

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    5 hours ago






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    Don't die a for a company as no company will die for you, ever.

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I currently work for a medium-large (~500 employees) Italian company as a Linux developer. I work in a team of 8 people, most of them are really awesome and really friendly, the day life is good and so is the comfort that the company offers.



To reach the office I have to drive around 75km per day, on alternating weeks (I share the car with a colleague), so around 750km per month just to go to and from work. My salary is ~15% less than the Italian average for the position I cover.



A couple of days per month I also work for another company, way smaller (around 10 employees) which is 10km away from my place. There I work with a guy that is a consultant for the first company. We work quite well together. The office is often almost empty since more than half of the team work in a different city.



Recently the new company asked me to join them as a full-time developer, with a salary that is almost double my current one.



I don't know exactly what to do and what I should take into account to choose what to do.



I feel guilty leaving my current team knowing the difficulties we are facing right now (mostly because the team is too small for the amount of work).



(Of course I can earn more money and gain more free time in the new job.)



With the information I'm sharing with you, what would you do in term of thoughts or even decision?



Should I have concern for my previous workplace, when considering a new job?



Some extra info: I've worked at the first company since January 2018 and I'm almost 23 years old.










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    You'll need to consider what is most important to you, and make your decision accordingly. One thing I can offer is that the chance to double your salary doesn't come along every day.

    – Joe Strazzere
    10 hours ago






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    The question at heart here is really "Should I have concern for my previous workplace, when considering a new job?" It's a good question and not a dupe.

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  • I've edited my question following @Fattie suggestion, thank you!

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    If the current team is too small to handle the workload, that is a problem created by top management trying to cut corners. You won't be able to fix that, and you shouldn't even consider it. When you are top management, get paid like it, and have equity, then you should consider that.

    – PoloHoleSet
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I currently work for a medium-large (~500 employees) Italian company as a Linux developer. I work in a team of 8 people, most of them are really awesome and really friendly, the day life is good and so is the comfort that the company offers.



To reach the office I have to drive around 75km per day, on alternating weeks (I share the car with a colleague), so around 750km per month just to go to and from work. My salary is ~15% less than the Italian average for the position I cover.



A couple of days per month I also work for another company, way smaller (around 10 employees) which is 10km away from my place. There I work with a guy that is a consultant for the first company. We work quite well together. The office is often almost empty since more than half of the team work in a different city.



Recently the new company asked me to join them as a full-time developer, with a salary that is almost double my current one.



I don't know exactly what to do and what I should take into account to choose what to do.



I feel guilty leaving my current team knowing the difficulties we are facing right now (mostly because the team is too small for the amount of work).



(Of course I can earn more money and gain more free time in the new job.)



With the information I'm sharing with you, what would you do in term of thoughts or even decision?



Should I have concern for my previous workplace, when considering a new job?



Some extra info: I've worked at the first company since January 2018 and I'm almost 23 years old.










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I currently work for a medium-large (~500 employees) Italian company as a Linux developer. I work in a team of 8 people, most of them are really awesome and really friendly, the day life is good and so is the comfort that the company offers.



To reach the office I have to drive around 75km per day, on alternating weeks (I share the car with a colleague), so around 750km per month just to go to and from work. My salary is ~15% less than the Italian average for the position I cover.



A couple of days per month I also work for another company, way smaller (around 10 employees) which is 10km away from my place. There I work with a guy that is a consultant for the first company. We work quite well together. The office is often almost empty since more than half of the team work in a different city.



Recently the new company asked me to join them as a full-time developer, with a salary that is almost double my current one.



I don't know exactly what to do and what I should take into account to choose what to do.



I feel guilty leaving my current team knowing the difficulties we are facing right now (mostly because the team is too small for the amount of work).



(Of course I can earn more money and gain more free time in the new job.)



With the information I'm sharing with you, what would you do in term of thoughts or even decision?



Should I have concern for my previous workplace, when considering a new job?



Some extra info: I've worked at the first company since January 2018 and I'm almost 23 years old.







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    You'll need to consider what is most important to you, and make your decision accordingly. One thing I can offer is that the chance to double your salary doesn't come along every day.

    – Joe Strazzere
    10 hours ago






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    The question at heart here is really "Should I have concern for my previous workplace, when considering a new job?" It's a good question and not a dupe.

    – Fattie
    7 hours ago











  • I've edited my question following @Fattie suggestion, thank you!

    – gabbla
    6 hours ago






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    If the current team is too small to handle the workload, that is a problem created by top management trying to cut corners. You won't be able to fix that, and you shouldn't even consider it. When you are top management, get paid like it, and have equity, then you should consider that.

    – PoloHoleSet
    5 hours ago






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    Don't die a for a company as no company will die for you, ever.

    – Adrian Iftode
    3 hours ago














  • 22





    You'll need to consider what is most important to you, and make your decision accordingly. One thing I can offer is that the chance to double your salary doesn't come along every day.

    – Joe Strazzere
    10 hours ago






  • 1





    The question at heart here is really "Should I have concern for my previous workplace, when considering a new job?" It's a good question and not a dupe.

    – Fattie
    7 hours ago











  • I've edited my question following @Fattie suggestion, thank you!

    – gabbla
    6 hours ago






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    If the current team is too small to handle the workload, that is a problem created by top management trying to cut corners. You won't be able to fix that, and you shouldn't even consider it. When you are top management, get paid like it, and have equity, then you should consider that.

    – PoloHoleSet
    5 hours ago






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    Don't die a for a company as no company will die for you, ever.

    – Adrian Iftode
    3 hours ago








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You'll need to consider what is most important to you, and make your decision accordingly. One thing I can offer is that the chance to double your salary doesn't come along every day.

– Joe Strazzere
10 hours ago





You'll need to consider what is most important to you, and make your decision accordingly. One thing I can offer is that the chance to double your salary doesn't come along every day.

– Joe Strazzere
10 hours ago




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The question at heart here is really "Should I have concern for my previous workplace, when considering a new job?" It's a good question and not a dupe.

– Fattie
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The question at heart here is really "Should I have concern for my previous workplace, when considering a new job?" It's a good question and not a dupe.

– Fattie
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I've edited my question following @Fattie suggestion, thank you!

– gabbla
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I've edited my question following @Fattie suggestion, thank you!

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If the current team is too small to handle the workload, that is a problem created by top management trying to cut corners. You won't be able to fix that, and you shouldn't even consider it. When you are top management, get paid like it, and have equity, then you should consider that.

– PoloHoleSet
5 hours ago





If the current team is too small to handle the workload, that is a problem created by top management trying to cut corners. You won't be able to fix that, and you shouldn't even consider it. When you are top management, get paid like it, and have equity, then you should consider that.

– PoloHoleSet
5 hours ago




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Don't die a for a company as no company will die for you, ever.

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Don't die a for a company as no company will die for you, ever.

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To me... This is a simple choice.



So basically the only reason you're hesitating is because you don't want to leave your team with all the work?



It's going to be overloaded whether you're there or not. They can find a replacement for you but you may not find a replacement job offer that will almost double your salary in a very very long time.



You should focus on progressing your own personal career. If the new job is higher pay (by almost double), shorter commute and obviously going to be better for your daily life. It's a no brainer.






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    +1 There is a reason that team is understaffed. That is they pay poorly and require travel and additional expenses. Management should step up and pay and reimburse their employees for expenses. Until they do, it will be trouble finding a full staff.

    – Pete B.
    9 hours ago






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    however, @PeteB. , those issues concerning the current company are absolutely not the business of the OP. Those facts about the current company, whether true, untrue or partially true, are totally irrelevant to the life, career, and psyche of our OP. As an employee one must not ever become psychologically involved in "the company". It's their business: never think about it. Simply carefully and decisively choose your career.

    – Fattie
    9 hours ago






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    You would be a fool not to take the offer. If burning bridges is such an important issue for you then you can arrange with your new employer if that is possible to get a hand-over period assigned before leaving your old work so you allow them enough time to replace you effectively.

    – Leon
    8 hours ago






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    Leon has said it all: You would be a fool not to take the offer. You can carve that in stone in large letters.

    – Fattie
    7 hours ago






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    There's one factor that makes the choice a little more complicated than it seems -- a 500 employee company is (usually) more stable than a 10 person company -- the smaller company is more likely to run out of money and go out of business unexpectedly. So it's possible that some people may find that staying at the farther and lower paying job is the better decision.

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Ciao, you should absolutely should take the new offer.



Regarding your belief that:




Your belief that your old company will be "hurt" when you leave.




This is an aberration in your thinking. It would be like using red wine in ragu. You must let this go!




  1. Everyone is replaceable


  2. Teams are usually HAPPY when someone leaves, it is a chance for fresh air


  3. Your current boss will be pleased to see you getting ahead


  4. Everyone is much less important than they think. The code base will be fine without you



You "think" that the reason you don't want to leave is that you don't want to "hurt" the old company. But really, it is just ego! Your leaving will not cause them the slightest problem.



At this stage in your career you must be able to




  • clearly,

  • politely,

  • and with no psychological fuss


leave one company and move to another.



It is a basic in your career. Develop this skill now!



In short ... "I feel guilty ..." you should leave such feelings behind now that you are not a teenager! If you do not, you will not make it in the adult world of work!



Act in a mature manner and simply clearly,
politely, and with no psychological fuss, tell the old company you're leaving. Everyone will wish you well and you can see how the next job goes.



Take this amazing opportunity and enjoy.






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    "Teams are usually HAPPY when someone leaves, it is a chance for fresh air" - usually happy? No.

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    Actually I don't believe that the company will be hurt, but the team will be. Also, I see @JoeStrazzere 's POV, when a team member leave the group, especially in big project like mine, the team isn't so happy, since you need time, a lot of time, to teach someone 5+ years of work, unless the leaving member was a "nuisance" for other members.

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    Fattie, to be blunt - since you have no problem doing so - I think the real problem with this answer is that you take your own viewpoint and experiences and extrapolate to an entire industry/culture as if everyone agrees with you and sees things exactly the same, with no room for variation. (example: how can you possibly know how his boss will feel?) If your answers were less absolute, they would be less polarizing, more accurate, and more valuable. I agree with the intent of your answer but it's hard to support because it's so narrowly presented.

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    @gabbla - actually, being unhappy losing a resource on a project is only the tiniest part of why teams are not happy when someone leaves. Far more important is that teams are unhappy to not be able to see a friend every day. I know when my friends leave, I'm sad about it. And I suspect they missed me when I left. Perhaps for some individuals, people are indeed happy when they leave. But I suspect that is a minority.

    – Joe Strazzere
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    @Fattie - I agree with most of what you have written here. I think you tend to ruin your answers on occasion while trying to be funny and/or controversial. I think that's unfortunate.

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Many people I know have felt exactly as you do, leaving both better and significantly worse employers than yours. I felt the same, when I left my first employer. I confused the personal loyalty I felt to my team, my manager and the company with my duty as an employee. Of course you feel loyal, you've worked there for a year and you've grown immensely! However, you cannot be responsible for the work you leave behind. It is your manager's job to ensure that the team can cope with the loss of any one member. That is not your cross to bear. That said, which option provides you with more room to grow, in ways you would like to grow?



You might not yet know which professional growth your new employer can offer you, while you do know what skills you can develop and projects you can complete with the old employer. Many of us are a little risk averse. How does that factor into your current feelings?



There is (or will be) more to life than a job. A pay rise early in your career can be a huge boost to your financial prospects. Working closer to home means more time to invest in you, family and friends - or in your career. That is a level of freedom that your current job may not be able to offer you. Don't compare the jobs in isolation. Instead, weigh the possibilities offered by the jobs (including the freedom to do work that you like, in a team that you like).






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  • Thank you for sharing your experience! I know that this is a big chance and I want to live it in the best possible way!

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  • As I try to explain in my post, "personal loyalty" is in reality just simple ego. The idea that they "need" some particular programmer ................. is a skill fantasy. They do not need you at all in any way. It is an ego trip, masking as loyalty. Hopefully I'm convincing some people here to get ahead in their careers! :)

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  • Adding to this idea - I stayed at my last employer about a year after I knew I was underpaid for the work I was doing. I felt the same loyalty to the project - to the people I was working with. During this time I ended up putting in extra hours a few times because the project was understaffed. My reward for this extra dedication? The entire branch was laid off. I dusted off my resume, started applying, and now have a job paying ~30% more which is extremely close to home. My only regret is that I didn't leave sooner.

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Try to put it this way:

Is the company going to keep you when there is nothing to do?

Is the company going to keep you when they find another person with the same skill set as you and get the job done with the half of your salary?



I'm a commuter as well and would prefer a closer job every day in the week especially if I get an extra salary I currently have.



Bonus point: If family comes first for you, it should be no brainer. Less time on the road. More time with your family.






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    I feel guilty to leave my current team knowing the difficulties we are facing right now (mostly because the team is too small for the amount of work).




    To quote an answer I've written to another question:




    An important thing to realize is, that if a company cannot afford to pay (adequately) for software, they aren't entitled to get software for "free".




    If the team is too small (i.e. it is overworked to meet unrealistic expectations), it means that someone is trying to get software for free. If the team members are underpaid, it means that someone is trying to get software for free.



    If you have the opportunity, all other things being equal, to go work for a place where they understand the cost of software, and are comfortable paying for it, that sounds like a great choice to make.






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      Get that money fam!



      Take the offer!



      Accept the job offer and put in your two weeks at your current company. During the notice period your boss will either have you do everything that needs to be done in order to hand the project off to someone else, or attempt to make a counter offer to keep you.



      Given the driving distance to your new job, and the prospect of making 80% more than the average pay for your position in Italy, I'd suggest not taking it and moving on. Don't feel so guilty. This is a major part of how salary increases happen in programming.






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      • @JoeStrazzere Money is Money. Fam is slang for family. It's similar to saying Dude, Sis, Bro, etc... That sentence basically just says the offer should be accepted.

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        Okay. It's best to avoid slang here when possible. It often doesn't translate well to different cultures.

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      To me... This is a simple choice.



      So basically the only reason you're hesitating is because you don't want to leave your team with all the work?



      It's going to be overloaded whether you're there or not. They can find a replacement for you but you may not find a replacement job offer that will almost double your salary in a very very long time.



      You should focus on progressing your own personal career. If the new job is higher pay (by almost double), shorter commute and obviously going to be better for your daily life. It's a no brainer.






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        +1 There is a reason that team is understaffed. That is they pay poorly and require travel and additional expenses. Management should step up and pay and reimburse their employees for expenses. Until they do, it will be trouble finding a full staff.

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        however, @PeteB. , those issues concerning the current company are absolutely not the business of the OP. Those facts about the current company, whether true, untrue or partially true, are totally irrelevant to the life, career, and psyche of our OP. As an employee one must not ever become psychologically involved in "the company". It's their business: never think about it. Simply carefully and decisively choose your career.

        – Fattie
        9 hours ago






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        You would be a fool not to take the offer. If burning bridges is such an important issue for you then you can arrange with your new employer if that is possible to get a hand-over period assigned before leaving your old work so you allow them enough time to replace you effectively.

        – Leon
        8 hours ago






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        Leon has said it all: You would be a fool not to take the offer. You can carve that in stone in large letters.

        – Fattie
        7 hours ago






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        There's one factor that makes the choice a little more complicated than it seems -- a 500 employee company is (usually) more stable than a 10 person company -- the smaller company is more likely to run out of money and go out of business unexpectedly. So it's possible that some people may find that staying at the farther and lower paying job is the better decision.

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      To me... This is a simple choice.



      So basically the only reason you're hesitating is because you don't want to leave your team with all the work?



      It's going to be overloaded whether you're there or not. They can find a replacement for you but you may not find a replacement job offer that will almost double your salary in a very very long time.



      You should focus on progressing your own personal career. If the new job is higher pay (by almost double), shorter commute and obviously going to be better for your daily life. It's a no brainer.






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        +1 There is a reason that team is understaffed. That is they pay poorly and require travel and additional expenses. Management should step up and pay and reimburse their employees for expenses. Until they do, it will be trouble finding a full staff.

        – Pete B.
        9 hours ago






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        however, @PeteB. , those issues concerning the current company are absolutely not the business of the OP. Those facts about the current company, whether true, untrue or partially true, are totally irrelevant to the life, career, and psyche of our OP. As an employee one must not ever become psychologically involved in "the company". It's their business: never think about it. Simply carefully and decisively choose your career.

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        9 hours ago






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        You would be a fool not to take the offer. If burning bridges is such an important issue for you then you can arrange with your new employer if that is possible to get a hand-over period assigned before leaving your old work so you allow them enough time to replace you effectively.

        – Leon
        8 hours ago






      • 2





        Leon has said it all: You would be a fool not to take the offer. You can carve that in stone in large letters.

        – Fattie
        7 hours ago






      • 2





        There's one factor that makes the choice a little more complicated than it seems -- a 500 employee company is (usually) more stable than a 10 person company -- the smaller company is more likely to run out of money and go out of business unexpectedly. So it's possible that some people may find that staying at the farther and lower paying job is the better decision.

        – Johnny
        1 hour ago














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      To me... This is a simple choice.



      So basically the only reason you're hesitating is because you don't want to leave your team with all the work?



      It's going to be overloaded whether you're there or not. They can find a replacement for you but you may not find a replacement job offer that will almost double your salary in a very very long time.



      You should focus on progressing your own personal career. If the new job is higher pay (by almost double), shorter commute and obviously going to be better for your daily life. It's a no brainer.






      share|improve this answer















      To me... This is a simple choice.



      So basically the only reason you're hesitating is because you don't want to leave your team with all the work?



      It's going to be overloaded whether you're there or not. They can find a replacement for you but you may not find a replacement job offer that will almost double your salary in a very very long time.



      You should focus on progressing your own personal career. If the new job is higher pay (by almost double), shorter commute and obviously going to be better for your daily life. It's a no brainer.







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        +1 There is a reason that team is understaffed. That is they pay poorly and require travel and additional expenses. Management should step up and pay and reimburse their employees for expenses. Until they do, it will be trouble finding a full staff.

        – Pete B.
        9 hours ago






      • 9





        however, @PeteB. , those issues concerning the current company are absolutely not the business of the OP. Those facts about the current company, whether true, untrue or partially true, are totally irrelevant to the life, career, and psyche of our OP. As an employee one must not ever become psychologically involved in "the company". It's their business: never think about it. Simply carefully and decisively choose your career.

        – Fattie
        9 hours ago






      • 6





        You would be a fool not to take the offer. If burning bridges is such an important issue for you then you can arrange with your new employer if that is possible to get a hand-over period assigned before leaving your old work so you allow them enough time to replace you effectively.

        – Leon
        8 hours ago






      • 2





        Leon has said it all: You would be a fool not to take the offer. You can carve that in stone in large letters.

        – Fattie
        7 hours ago






      • 2





        There's one factor that makes the choice a little more complicated than it seems -- a 500 employee company is (usually) more stable than a 10 person company -- the smaller company is more likely to run out of money and go out of business unexpectedly. So it's possible that some people may find that staying at the farther and lower paying job is the better decision.

        – Johnny
        1 hour ago














      • 6





        +1 There is a reason that team is understaffed. That is they pay poorly and require travel and additional expenses. Management should step up and pay and reimburse their employees for expenses. Until they do, it will be trouble finding a full staff.

        – Pete B.
        9 hours ago






      • 9





        however, @PeteB. , those issues concerning the current company are absolutely not the business of the OP. Those facts about the current company, whether true, untrue or partially true, are totally irrelevant to the life, career, and psyche of our OP. As an employee one must not ever become psychologically involved in "the company". It's their business: never think about it. Simply carefully and decisively choose your career.

        – Fattie
        9 hours ago






      • 6





        You would be a fool not to take the offer. If burning bridges is such an important issue for you then you can arrange with your new employer if that is possible to get a hand-over period assigned before leaving your old work so you allow them enough time to replace you effectively.

        – Leon
        8 hours ago






      • 2





        Leon has said it all: You would be a fool not to take the offer. You can carve that in stone in large letters.

        – Fattie
        7 hours ago






      • 2





        There's one factor that makes the choice a little more complicated than it seems -- a 500 employee company is (usually) more stable than a 10 person company -- the smaller company is more likely to run out of money and go out of business unexpectedly. So it's possible that some people may find that staying at the farther and lower paying job is the better decision.

        – Johnny
        1 hour ago








      6




      6





      +1 There is a reason that team is understaffed. That is they pay poorly and require travel and additional expenses. Management should step up and pay and reimburse their employees for expenses. Until they do, it will be trouble finding a full staff.

      – Pete B.
      9 hours ago





      +1 There is a reason that team is understaffed. That is they pay poorly and require travel and additional expenses. Management should step up and pay and reimburse their employees for expenses. Until they do, it will be trouble finding a full staff.

      – Pete B.
      9 hours ago




      9




      9





      however, @PeteB. , those issues concerning the current company are absolutely not the business of the OP. Those facts about the current company, whether true, untrue or partially true, are totally irrelevant to the life, career, and psyche of our OP. As an employee one must not ever become psychologically involved in "the company". It's their business: never think about it. Simply carefully and decisively choose your career.

      – Fattie
      9 hours ago





      however, @PeteB. , those issues concerning the current company are absolutely not the business of the OP. Those facts about the current company, whether true, untrue or partially true, are totally irrelevant to the life, career, and psyche of our OP. As an employee one must not ever become psychologically involved in "the company". It's their business: never think about it. Simply carefully and decisively choose your career.

      – Fattie
      9 hours ago




      6




      6





      You would be a fool not to take the offer. If burning bridges is such an important issue for you then you can arrange with your new employer if that is possible to get a hand-over period assigned before leaving your old work so you allow them enough time to replace you effectively.

      – Leon
      8 hours ago





      You would be a fool not to take the offer. If burning bridges is such an important issue for you then you can arrange with your new employer if that is possible to get a hand-over period assigned before leaving your old work so you allow them enough time to replace you effectively.

      – Leon
      8 hours ago




      2




      2





      Leon has said it all: You would be a fool not to take the offer. You can carve that in stone in large letters.

      – Fattie
      7 hours ago





      Leon has said it all: You would be a fool not to take the offer. You can carve that in stone in large letters.

      – Fattie
      7 hours ago




      2




      2





      There's one factor that makes the choice a little more complicated than it seems -- a 500 employee company is (usually) more stable than a 10 person company -- the smaller company is more likely to run out of money and go out of business unexpectedly. So it's possible that some people may find that staying at the farther and lower paying job is the better decision.

      – Johnny
      1 hour ago





      There's one factor that makes the choice a little more complicated than it seems -- a 500 employee company is (usually) more stable than a 10 person company -- the smaller company is more likely to run out of money and go out of business unexpectedly. So it's possible that some people may find that staying at the farther and lower paying job is the better decision.

      – Johnny
      1 hour ago













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      Ciao, you should absolutely should take the new offer.



      Regarding your belief that:




      Your belief that your old company will be "hurt" when you leave.




      This is an aberration in your thinking. It would be like using red wine in ragu. You must let this go!




      1. Everyone is replaceable


      2. Teams are usually HAPPY when someone leaves, it is a chance for fresh air


      3. Your current boss will be pleased to see you getting ahead


      4. Everyone is much less important than they think. The code base will be fine without you



      You "think" that the reason you don't want to leave is that you don't want to "hurt" the old company. But really, it is just ego! Your leaving will not cause them the slightest problem.



      At this stage in your career you must be able to




      • clearly,

      • politely,

      • and with no psychological fuss


      leave one company and move to another.



      It is a basic in your career. Develop this skill now!



      In short ... "I feel guilty ..." you should leave such feelings behind now that you are not a teenager! If you do not, you will not make it in the adult world of work!



      Act in a mature manner and simply clearly,
      politely, and with no psychological fuss, tell the old company you're leaving. Everyone will wish you well and you can see how the next job goes.



      Take this amazing opportunity and enjoy.






      share|improve this answer





















      • 26





        "Teams are usually HAPPY when someone leaves, it is a chance for fresh air" - usually happy? No.

        – Joe Strazzere
        8 hours ago






      • 2





        Actually I don't believe that the company will be hurt, but the team will be. Also, I see @JoeStrazzere 's POV, when a team member leave the group, especially in big project like mine, the team isn't so happy, since you need time, a lot of time, to teach someone 5+ years of work, unless the leaving member was a "nuisance" for other members.

        – gabbla
        6 hours ago






      • 10





        Fattie, to be blunt - since you have no problem doing so - I think the real problem with this answer is that you take your own viewpoint and experiences and extrapolate to an entire industry/culture as if everyone agrees with you and sees things exactly the same, with no room for variation. (example: how can you possibly know how his boss will feel?) If your answers were less absolute, they would be less polarizing, more accurate, and more valuable. I agree with the intent of your answer but it's hard to support because it's so narrowly presented.

        – dwizum
        5 hours ago






      • 3





        @gabbla - actually, being unhappy losing a resource on a project is only the tiniest part of why teams are not happy when someone leaves. Far more important is that teams are unhappy to not be able to see a friend every day. I know when my friends leave, I'm sad about it. And I suspect they missed me when I left. Perhaps for some individuals, people are indeed happy when they leave. But I suspect that is a minority.

        – Joe Strazzere
        4 hours ago






      • 4





        @Fattie - I agree with most of what you have written here. I think you tend to ruin your answers on occasion while trying to be funny and/or controversial. I think that's unfortunate.

        – Joe Strazzere
        4 hours ago
















      6














      Ciao, you should absolutely should take the new offer.



      Regarding your belief that:




      Your belief that your old company will be "hurt" when you leave.




      This is an aberration in your thinking. It would be like using red wine in ragu. You must let this go!




      1. Everyone is replaceable


      2. Teams are usually HAPPY when someone leaves, it is a chance for fresh air


      3. Your current boss will be pleased to see you getting ahead


      4. Everyone is much less important than they think. The code base will be fine without you



      You "think" that the reason you don't want to leave is that you don't want to "hurt" the old company. But really, it is just ego! Your leaving will not cause them the slightest problem.



      At this stage in your career you must be able to




      • clearly,

      • politely,

      • and with no psychological fuss


      leave one company and move to another.



      It is a basic in your career. Develop this skill now!



      In short ... "I feel guilty ..." you should leave such feelings behind now that you are not a teenager! If you do not, you will not make it in the adult world of work!



      Act in a mature manner and simply clearly,
      politely, and with no psychological fuss, tell the old company you're leaving. Everyone will wish you well and you can see how the next job goes.



      Take this amazing opportunity and enjoy.






      share|improve this answer





















      • 26





        "Teams are usually HAPPY when someone leaves, it is a chance for fresh air" - usually happy? No.

        – Joe Strazzere
        8 hours ago






      • 2





        Actually I don't believe that the company will be hurt, but the team will be. Also, I see @JoeStrazzere 's POV, when a team member leave the group, especially in big project like mine, the team isn't so happy, since you need time, a lot of time, to teach someone 5+ years of work, unless the leaving member was a "nuisance" for other members.

        – gabbla
        6 hours ago






      • 10





        Fattie, to be blunt - since you have no problem doing so - I think the real problem with this answer is that you take your own viewpoint and experiences and extrapolate to an entire industry/culture as if everyone agrees with you and sees things exactly the same, with no room for variation. (example: how can you possibly know how his boss will feel?) If your answers were less absolute, they would be less polarizing, more accurate, and more valuable. I agree with the intent of your answer but it's hard to support because it's so narrowly presented.

        – dwizum
        5 hours ago






      • 3





        @gabbla - actually, being unhappy losing a resource on a project is only the tiniest part of why teams are not happy when someone leaves. Far more important is that teams are unhappy to not be able to see a friend every day. I know when my friends leave, I'm sad about it. And I suspect they missed me when I left. Perhaps for some individuals, people are indeed happy when they leave. But I suspect that is a minority.

        – Joe Strazzere
        4 hours ago






      • 4





        @Fattie - I agree with most of what you have written here. I think you tend to ruin your answers on occasion while trying to be funny and/or controversial. I think that's unfortunate.

        – Joe Strazzere
        4 hours ago














      6












      6








      6







      Ciao, you should absolutely should take the new offer.



      Regarding your belief that:




      Your belief that your old company will be "hurt" when you leave.




      This is an aberration in your thinking. It would be like using red wine in ragu. You must let this go!




      1. Everyone is replaceable


      2. Teams are usually HAPPY when someone leaves, it is a chance for fresh air


      3. Your current boss will be pleased to see you getting ahead


      4. Everyone is much less important than they think. The code base will be fine without you



      You "think" that the reason you don't want to leave is that you don't want to "hurt" the old company. But really, it is just ego! Your leaving will not cause them the slightest problem.



      At this stage in your career you must be able to




      • clearly,

      • politely,

      • and with no psychological fuss


      leave one company and move to another.



      It is a basic in your career. Develop this skill now!



      In short ... "I feel guilty ..." you should leave such feelings behind now that you are not a teenager! If you do not, you will not make it in the adult world of work!



      Act in a mature manner and simply clearly,
      politely, and with no psychological fuss, tell the old company you're leaving. Everyone will wish you well and you can see how the next job goes.



      Take this amazing opportunity and enjoy.






      share|improve this answer















      Ciao, you should absolutely should take the new offer.



      Regarding your belief that:




      Your belief that your old company will be "hurt" when you leave.




      This is an aberration in your thinking. It would be like using red wine in ragu. You must let this go!




      1. Everyone is replaceable


      2. Teams are usually HAPPY when someone leaves, it is a chance for fresh air


      3. Your current boss will be pleased to see you getting ahead


      4. Everyone is much less important than they think. The code base will be fine without you



      You "think" that the reason you don't want to leave is that you don't want to "hurt" the old company. But really, it is just ego! Your leaving will not cause them the slightest problem.



      At this stage in your career you must be able to




      • clearly,

      • politely,

      • and with no psychological fuss


      leave one company and move to another.



      It is a basic in your career. Develop this skill now!



      In short ... "I feel guilty ..." you should leave such feelings behind now that you are not a teenager! If you do not, you will not make it in the adult world of work!



      Act in a mature manner and simply clearly,
      politely, and with no psychological fuss, tell the old company you're leaving. Everyone will wish you well and you can see how the next job goes.



      Take this amazing opportunity and enjoy.







      share|improve this answer














      share|improve this answer



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      answered 9 hours ago









      FattieFattie

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      • 26





        "Teams are usually HAPPY when someone leaves, it is a chance for fresh air" - usually happy? No.

        – Joe Strazzere
        8 hours ago






      • 2





        Actually I don't believe that the company will be hurt, but the team will be. Also, I see @JoeStrazzere 's POV, when a team member leave the group, especially in big project like mine, the team isn't so happy, since you need time, a lot of time, to teach someone 5+ years of work, unless the leaving member was a "nuisance" for other members.

        – gabbla
        6 hours ago






      • 10





        Fattie, to be blunt - since you have no problem doing so - I think the real problem with this answer is that you take your own viewpoint and experiences and extrapolate to an entire industry/culture as if everyone agrees with you and sees things exactly the same, with no room for variation. (example: how can you possibly know how his boss will feel?) If your answers were less absolute, they would be less polarizing, more accurate, and more valuable. I agree with the intent of your answer but it's hard to support because it's so narrowly presented.

        – dwizum
        5 hours ago






      • 3





        @gabbla - actually, being unhappy losing a resource on a project is only the tiniest part of why teams are not happy when someone leaves. Far more important is that teams are unhappy to not be able to see a friend every day. I know when my friends leave, I'm sad about it. And I suspect they missed me when I left. Perhaps for some individuals, people are indeed happy when they leave. But I suspect that is a minority.

        – Joe Strazzere
        4 hours ago






      • 4





        @Fattie - I agree with most of what you have written here. I think you tend to ruin your answers on occasion while trying to be funny and/or controversial. I think that's unfortunate.

        – Joe Strazzere
        4 hours ago














      • 26





        "Teams are usually HAPPY when someone leaves, it is a chance for fresh air" - usually happy? No.

        – Joe Strazzere
        8 hours ago






      • 2





        Actually I don't believe that the company will be hurt, but the team will be. Also, I see @JoeStrazzere 's POV, when a team member leave the group, especially in big project like mine, the team isn't so happy, since you need time, a lot of time, to teach someone 5+ years of work, unless the leaving member was a "nuisance" for other members.

        – gabbla
        6 hours ago






      • 10





        Fattie, to be blunt - since you have no problem doing so - I think the real problem with this answer is that you take your own viewpoint and experiences and extrapolate to an entire industry/culture as if everyone agrees with you and sees things exactly the same, with no room for variation. (example: how can you possibly know how his boss will feel?) If your answers were less absolute, they would be less polarizing, more accurate, and more valuable. I agree with the intent of your answer but it's hard to support because it's so narrowly presented.

        – dwizum
        5 hours ago






      • 3





        @gabbla - actually, being unhappy losing a resource on a project is only the tiniest part of why teams are not happy when someone leaves. Far more important is that teams are unhappy to not be able to see a friend every day. I know when my friends leave, I'm sad about it. And I suspect they missed me when I left. Perhaps for some individuals, people are indeed happy when they leave. But I suspect that is a minority.

        – Joe Strazzere
        4 hours ago






      • 4





        @Fattie - I agree with most of what you have written here. I think you tend to ruin your answers on occasion while trying to be funny and/or controversial. I think that's unfortunate.

        – Joe Strazzere
        4 hours ago








      26




      26





      "Teams are usually HAPPY when someone leaves, it is a chance for fresh air" - usually happy? No.

      – Joe Strazzere
      8 hours ago





      "Teams are usually HAPPY when someone leaves, it is a chance for fresh air" - usually happy? No.

      – Joe Strazzere
      8 hours ago




      2




      2





      Actually I don't believe that the company will be hurt, but the team will be. Also, I see @JoeStrazzere 's POV, when a team member leave the group, especially in big project like mine, the team isn't so happy, since you need time, a lot of time, to teach someone 5+ years of work, unless the leaving member was a "nuisance" for other members.

      – gabbla
      6 hours ago





      Actually I don't believe that the company will be hurt, but the team will be. Also, I see @JoeStrazzere 's POV, when a team member leave the group, especially in big project like mine, the team isn't so happy, since you need time, a lot of time, to teach someone 5+ years of work, unless the leaving member was a "nuisance" for other members.

      – gabbla
      6 hours ago




      10




      10





      Fattie, to be blunt - since you have no problem doing so - I think the real problem with this answer is that you take your own viewpoint and experiences and extrapolate to an entire industry/culture as if everyone agrees with you and sees things exactly the same, with no room for variation. (example: how can you possibly know how his boss will feel?) If your answers were less absolute, they would be less polarizing, more accurate, and more valuable. I agree with the intent of your answer but it's hard to support because it's so narrowly presented.

      – dwizum
      5 hours ago





      Fattie, to be blunt - since you have no problem doing so - I think the real problem with this answer is that you take your own viewpoint and experiences and extrapolate to an entire industry/culture as if everyone agrees with you and sees things exactly the same, with no room for variation. (example: how can you possibly know how his boss will feel?) If your answers were less absolute, they would be less polarizing, more accurate, and more valuable. I agree with the intent of your answer but it's hard to support because it's so narrowly presented.

      – dwizum
      5 hours ago




      3




      3





      @gabbla - actually, being unhappy losing a resource on a project is only the tiniest part of why teams are not happy when someone leaves. Far more important is that teams are unhappy to not be able to see a friend every day. I know when my friends leave, I'm sad about it. And I suspect they missed me when I left. Perhaps for some individuals, people are indeed happy when they leave. But I suspect that is a minority.

      – Joe Strazzere
      4 hours ago





      @gabbla - actually, being unhappy losing a resource on a project is only the tiniest part of why teams are not happy when someone leaves. Far more important is that teams are unhappy to not be able to see a friend every day. I know when my friends leave, I'm sad about it. And I suspect they missed me when I left. Perhaps for some individuals, people are indeed happy when they leave. But I suspect that is a minority.

      – Joe Strazzere
      4 hours ago




      4




      4





      @Fattie - I agree with most of what you have written here. I think you tend to ruin your answers on occasion while trying to be funny and/or controversial. I think that's unfortunate.

      – Joe Strazzere
      4 hours ago





      @Fattie - I agree with most of what you have written here. I think you tend to ruin your answers on occasion while trying to be funny and/or controversial. I think that's unfortunate.

      – Joe Strazzere
      4 hours ago











      3














      Many people I know have felt exactly as you do, leaving both better and significantly worse employers than yours. I felt the same, when I left my first employer. I confused the personal loyalty I felt to my team, my manager and the company with my duty as an employee. Of course you feel loyal, you've worked there for a year and you've grown immensely! However, you cannot be responsible for the work you leave behind. It is your manager's job to ensure that the team can cope with the loss of any one member. That is not your cross to bear. That said, which option provides you with more room to grow, in ways you would like to grow?



      You might not yet know which professional growth your new employer can offer you, while you do know what skills you can develop and projects you can complete with the old employer. Many of us are a little risk averse. How does that factor into your current feelings?



      There is (or will be) more to life than a job. A pay rise early in your career can be a huge boost to your financial prospects. Working closer to home means more time to invest in you, family and friends - or in your career. That is a level of freedom that your current job may not be able to offer you. Don't compare the jobs in isolation. Instead, weigh the possibilities offered by the jobs (including the freedom to do work that you like, in a team that you like).






      share|improve this answer
























      • Thank you for sharing your experience! I know that this is a big chance and I want to live it in the best possible way!

        – gabbla
        6 hours ago











      • As I try to explain in my post, "personal loyalty" is in reality just simple ego. The idea that they "need" some particular programmer ................. is a skill fantasy. They do not need you at all in any way. It is an ego trip, masking as loyalty. Hopefully I'm convincing some people here to get ahead in their careers! :)

        – Fattie
        6 hours ago













      • Adding to this idea - I stayed at my last employer about a year after I knew I was underpaid for the work I was doing. I felt the same loyalty to the project - to the people I was working with. During this time I ended up putting in extra hours a few times because the project was understaffed. My reward for this extra dedication? The entire branch was laid off. I dusted off my resume, started applying, and now have a job paying ~30% more which is extremely close to home. My only regret is that I didn't leave sooner.

        – pseudonym117
        10 mins ago
















      3














      Many people I know have felt exactly as you do, leaving both better and significantly worse employers than yours. I felt the same, when I left my first employer. I confused the personal loyalty I felt to my team, my manager and the company with my duty as an employee. Of course you feel loyal, you've worked there for a year and you've grown immensely! However, you cannot be responsible for the work you leave behind. It is your manager's job to ensure that the team can cope with the loss of any one member. That is not your cross to bear. That said, which option provides you with more room to grow, in ways you would like to grow?



      You might not yet know which professional growth your new employer can offer you, while you do know what skills you can develop and projects you can complete with the old employer. Many of us are a little risk averse. How does that factor into your current feelings?



      There is (or will be) more to life than a job. A pay rise early in your career can be a huge boost to your financial prospects. Working closer to home means more time to invest in you, family and friends - or in your career. That is a level of freedom that your current job may not be able to offer you. Don't compare the jobs in isolation. Instead, weigh the possibilities offered by the jobs (including the freedom to do work that you like, in a team that you like).






      share|improve this answer
























      • Thank you for sharing your experience! I know that this is a big chance and I want to live it in the best possible way!

        – gabbla
        6 hours ago











      • As I try to explain in my post, "personal loyalty" is in reality just simple ego. The idea that they "need" some particular programmer ................. is a skill fantasy. They do not need you at all in any way. It is an ego trip, masking as loyalty. Hopefully I'm convincing some people here to get ahead in their careers! :)

        – Fattie
        6 hours ago













      • Adding to this idea - I stayed at my last employer about a year after I knew I was underpaid for the work I was doing. I felt the same loyalty to the project - to the people I was working with. During this time I ended up putting in extra hours a few times because the project was understaffed. My reward for this extra dedication? The entire branch was laid off. I dusted off my resume, started applying, and now have a job paying ~30% more which is extremely close to home. My only regret is that I didn't leave sooner.

        – pseudonym117
        10 mins ago














      3












      3








      3







      Many people I know have felt exactly as you do, leaving both better and significantly worse employers than yours. I felt the same, when I left my first employer. I confused the personal loyalty I felt to my team, my manager and the company with my duty as an employee. Of course you feel loyal, you've worked there for a year and you've grown immensely! However, you cannot be responsible for the work you leave behind. It is your manager's job to ensure that the team can cope with the loss of any one member. That is not your cross to bear. That said, which option provides you with more room to grow, in ways you would like to grow?



      You might not yet know which professional growth your new employer can offer you, while you do know what skills you can develop and projects you can complete with the old employer. Many of us are a little risk averse. How does that factor into your current feelings?



      There is (or will be) more to life than a job. A pay rise early in your career can be a huge boost to your financial prospects. Working closer to home means more time to invest in you, family and friends - or in your career. That is a level of freedom that your current job may not be able to offer you. Don't compare the jobs in isolation. Instead, weigh the possibilities offered by the jobs (including the freedom to do work that you like, in a team that you like).






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      Many people I know have felt exactly as you do, leaving both better and significantly worse employers than yours. I felt the same, when I left my first employer. I confused the personal loyalty I felt to my team, my manager and the company with my duty as an employee. Of course you feel loyal, you've worked there for a year and you've grown immensely! However, you cannot be responsible for the work you leave behind. It is your manager's job to ensure that the team can cope with the loss of any one member. That is not your cross to bear. That said, which option provides you with more room to grow, in ways you would like to grow?



      You might not yet know which professional growth your new employer can offer you, while you do know what skills you can develop and projects you can complete with the old employer. Many of us are a little risk averse. How does that factor into your current feelings?



      There is (or will be) more to life than a job. A pay rise early in your career can be a huge boost to your financial prospects. Working closer to home means more time to invest in you, family and friends - or in your career. That is a level of freedom that your current job may not be able to offer you. Don't compare the jobs in isolation. Instead, weigh the possibilities offered by the jobs (including the freedom to do work that you like, in a team that you like).







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      • Thank you for sharing your experience! I know that this is a big chance and I want to live it in the best possible way!

        – gabbla
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      • As I try to explain in my post, "personal loyalty" is in reality just simple ego. The idea that they "need" some particular programmer ................. is a skill fantasy. They do not need you at all in any way. It is an ego trip, masking as loyalty. Hopefully I'm convincing some people here to get ahead in their careers! :)

        – Fattie
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      • Adding to this idea - I stayed at my last employer about a year after I knew I was underpaid for the work I was doing. I felt the same loyalty to the project - to the people I was working with. During this time I ended up putting in extra hours a few times because the project was understaffed. My reward for this extra dedication? The entire branch was laid off. I dusted off my resume, started applying, and now have a job paying ~30% more which is extremely close to home. My only regret is that I didn't leave sooner.

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      • Thank you for sharing your experience! I know that this is a big chance and I want to live it in the best possible way!

        – gabbla
        6 hours ago











      • As I try to explain in my post, "personal loyalty" is in reality just simple ego. The idea that they "need" some particular programmer ................. is a skill fantasy. They do not need you at all in any way. It is an ego trip, masking as loyalty. Hopefully I'm convincing some people here to get ahead in their careers! :)

        – Fattie
        6 hours ago













      • Adding to this idea - I stayed at my last employer about a year after I knew I was underpaid for the work I was doing. I felt the same loyalty to the project - to the people I was working with. During this time I ended up putting in extra hours a few times because the project was understaffed. My reward for this extra dedication? The entire branch was laid off. I dusted off my resume, started applying, and now have a job paying ~30% more which is extremely close to home. My only regret is that I didn't leave sooner.

        – pseudonym117
        10 mins ago

















      Thank you for sharing your experience! I know that this is a big chance and I want to live it in the best possible way!

      – gabbla
      6 hours ago





      Thank you for sharing your experience! I know that this is a big chance and I want to live it in the best possible way!

      – gabbla
      6 hours ago













      As I try to explain in my post, "personal loyalty" is in reality just simple ego. The idea that they "need" some particular programmer ................. is a skill fantasy. They do not need you at all in any way. It is an ego trip, masking as loyalty. Hopefully I'm convincing some people here to get ahead in their careers! :)

      – Fattie
      6 hours ago







      As I try to explain in my post, "personal loyalty" is in reality just simple ego. The idea that they "need" some particular programmer ................. is a skill fantasy. They do not need you at all in any way. It is an ego trip, masking as loyalty. Hopefully I'm convincing some people here to get ahead in their careers! :)

      – Fattie
      6 hours ago















      Adding to this idea - I stayed at my last employer about a year after I knew I was underpaid for the work I was doing. I felt the same loyalty to the project - to the people I was working with. During this time I ended up putting in extra hours a few times because the project was understaffed. My reward for this extra dedication? The entire branch was laid off. I dusted off my resume, started applying, and now have a job paying ~30% more which is extremely close to home. My only regret is that I didn't leave sooner.

      – pseudonym117
      10 mins ago





      Adding to this idea - I stayed at my last employer about a year after I knew I was underpaid for the work I was doing. I felt the same loyalty to the project - to the people I was working with. During this time I ended up putting in extra hours a few times because the project was understaffed. My reward for this extra dedication? The entire branch was laid off. I dusted off my resume, started applying, and now have a job paying ~30% more which is extremely close to home. My only regret is that I didn't leave sooner.

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      Try to put it this way:

      Is the company going to keep you when there is nothing to do?

      Is the company going to keep you when they find another person with the same skill set as you and get the job done with the half of your salary?



      I'm a commuter as well and would prefer a closer job every day in the week especially if I get an extra salary I currently have.



      Bonus point: If family comes first for you, it should be no brainer. Less time on the road. More time with your family.






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        Try to put it this way:

        Is the company going to keep you when there is nothing to do?

        Is the company going to keep you when they find another person with the same skill set as you and get the job done with the half of your salary?



        I'm a commuter as well and would prefer a closer job every day in the week especially if I get an extra salary I currently have.



        Bonus point: If family comes first for you, it should be no brainer. Less time on the road. More time with your family.






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          Try to put it this way:

          Is the company going to keep you when there is nothing to do?

          Is the company going to keep you when they find another person with the same skill set as you and get the job done with the half of your salary?



          I'm a commuter as well and would prefer a closer job every day in the week especially if I get an extra salary I currently have.



          Bonus point: If family comes first for you, it should be no brainer. Less time on the road. More time with your family.






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          Try to put it this way:

          Is the company going to keep you when there is nothing to do?

          Is the company going to keep you when they find another person with the same skill set as you and get the job done with the half of your salary?



          I'm a commuter as well and would prefer a closer job every day in the week especially if I get an extra salary I currently have.



          Bonus point: If family comes first for you, it should be no brainer. Less time on the road. More time with your family.







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              I feel guilty to leave my current team knowing the difficulties we are facing right now (mostly because the team is too small for the amount of work).




              To quote an answer I've written to another question:




              An important thing to realize is, that if a company cannot afford to pay (adequately) for software, they aren't entitled to get software for "free".




              If the team is too small (i.e. it is overworked to meet unrealistic expectations), it means that someone is trying to get software for free. If the team members are underpaid, it means that someone is trying to get software for free.



              If you have the opportunity, all other things being equal, to go work for a place where they understand the cost of software, and are comfortable paying for it, that sounds like a great choice to make.






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                I feel guilty to leave my current team knowing the difficulties we are facing right now (mostly because the team is too small for the amount of work).




                To quote an answer I've written to another question:




                An important thing to realize is, that if a company cannot afford to pay (adequately) for software, they aren't entitled to get software for "free".




                If the team is too small (i.e. it is overworked to meet unrealistic expectations), it means that someone is trying to get software for free. If the team members are underpaid, it means that someone is trying to get software for free.



                If you have the opportunity, all other things being equal, to go work for a place where they understand the cost of software, and are comfortable paying for it, that sounds like a great choice to make.






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                  I feel guilty to leave my current team knowing the difficulties we are facing right now (mostly because the team is too small for the amount of work).




                  To quote an answer I've written to another question:




                  An important thing to realize is, that if a company cannot afford to pay (adequately) for software, they aren't entitled to get software for "free".




                  If the team is too small (i.e. it is overworked to meet unrealistic expectations), it means that someone is trying to get software for free. If the team members are underpaid, it means that someone is trying to get software for free.



                  If you have the opportunity, all other things being equal, to go work for a place where they understand the cost of software, and are comfortable paying for it, that sounds like a great choice to make.






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                  I feel guilty to leave my current team knowing the difficulties we are facing right now (mostly because the team is too small for the amount of work).




                  To quote an answer I've written to another question:




                  An important thing to realize is, that if a company cannot afford to pay (adequately) for software, they aren't entitled to get software for "free".




                  If the team is too small (i.e. it is overworked to meet unrealistic expectations), it means that someone is trying to get software for free. If the team members are underpaid, it means that someone is trying to get software for free.



                  If you have the opportunity, all other things being equal, to go work for a place where they understand the cost of software, and are comfortable paying for it, that sounds like a great choice to make.







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                      Get that money fam!



                      Take the offer!



                      Accept the job offer and put in your two weeks at your current company. During the notice period your boss will either have you do everything that needs to be done in order to hand the project off to someone else, or attempt to make a counter offer to keep you.



                      Given the driving distance to your new job, and the prospect of making 80% more than the average pay for your position in Italy, I'd suggest not taking it and moving on. Don't feel so guilty. This is a major part of how salary increases happen in programming.






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                      • @JoeStrazzere Money is Money. Fam is slang for family. It's similar to saying Dude, Sis, Bro, etc... That sentence basically just says the offer should be accepted.

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                        Okay. It's best to avoid slang here when possible. It often doesn't translate well to different cultures.

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                      Get that money fam!



                      Take the offer!



                      Accept the job offer and put in your two weeks at your current company. During the notice period your boss will either have you do everything that needs to be done in order to hand the project off to someone else, or attempt to make a counter offer to keep you.



                      Given the driving distance to your new job, and the prospect of making 80% more than the average pay for your position in Italy, I'd suggest not taking it and moving on. Don't feel so guilty. This is a major part of how salary increases happen in programming.






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                      • @JoeStrazzere Money is Money. Fam is slang for family. It's similar to saying Dude, Sis, Bro, etc... That sentence basically just says the offer should be accepted.

                        – Steve
                        3 hours ago






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                        Okay. It's best to avoid slang here when possible. It often doesn't translate well to different cultures.

                        – Joe Strazzere
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                      Get that money fam!



                      Take the offer!



                      Accept the job offer and put in your two weeks at your current company. During the notice period your boss will either have you do everything that needs to be done in order to hand the project off to someone else, or attempt to make a counter offer to keep you.



                      Given the driving distance to your new job, and the prospect of making 80% more than the average pay for your position in Italy, I'd suggest not taking it and moving on. Don't feel so guilty. This is a major part of how salary increases happen in programming.






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                      Get that money fam!



                      Take the offer!



                      Accept the job offer and put in your two weeks at your current company. During the notice period your boss will either have you do everything that needs to be done in order to hand the project off to someone else, or attempt to make a counter offer to keep you.



                      Given the driving distance to your new job, and the prospect of making 80% more than the average pay for your position in Italy, I'd suggest not taking it and moving on. Don't feel so guilty. This is a major part of how salary increases happen in programming.







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                      • @JoeStrazzere Money is Money. Fam is slang for family. It's similar to saying Dude, Sis, Bro, etc... That sentence basically just says the offer should be accepted.

                        – Steve
                        3 hours ago






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                        Okay. It's best to avoid slang here when possible. It often doesn't translate well to different cultures.

                        – Joe Strazzere
                        3 hours ago



















                      • @JoeStrazzere Money is Money. Fam is slang for family. It's similar to saying Dude, Sis, Bro, etc... That sentence basically just says the offer should be accepted.

                        – Steve
                        3 hours ago






                      • 1





                        Okay. It's best to avoid slang here when possible. It often doesn't translate well to different cultures.

                        – Joe Strazzere
                        3 hours ago

















                      @JoeStrazzere Money is Money. Fam is slang for family. It's similar to saying Dude, Sis, Bro, etc... That sentence basically just says the offer should be accepted.

                      – Steve
                      3 hours ago





                      @JoeStrazzere Money is Money. Fam is slang for family. It's similar to saying Dude, Sis, Bro, etc... That sentence basically just says the offer should be accepted.

                      – Steve
                      3 hours ago




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                      Okay. It's best to avoid slang here when possible. It often doesn't translate well to different cultures.

                      – Joe Strazzere
                      3 hours ago





                      Okay. It's best to avoid slang here when possible. It often doesn't translate well to different cultures.

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                      3 hours ago










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