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I own a Creality CR-10 (using Ultimaker Cura for slicing) and I am experiencing terrible printing problems.



My problem: I am not able to print anything that takes several hours to print. For parts printed in 30 minutes or so, my printer usually works.



The prints end up like this (unfinished and with a lot of stringing)



fail



This below is actually the best result I got so far.. (important note: there is no under extrusion during the print, it suddenly stops out of nowhere..)
fail2
(Although I have to use terrible retraction settings and need a lot of post processing because of all the stringing - you might have an answer for that too.. I just couldnt get the 3d printer to print parts properly with good retraction settings.)



The problem is that at some point of the print, no more (PLA) material is extruded and the printer moves without actually printing anything. The first couple of layers usually work (you can see that in the images) but after wasting almost 600 grams of PLA, I am not able to find a solution myself.



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I have some suspicions:



Could the problem be the angle, the PLA is inserted into the feeder? (so that it is almost a 90 degree bend)? The filament comes from a spool in the right hand side. But I dont think that this would cause such a problem..



Angle of inserted filament



Is it a software problem? Here are all my cura settings (I even reduced the printing speed to 30mm/s at 205°C - still didnt work..) :-(



enter image description hereenter image description hereenter image description here



Could the length of the bowden tube and it tangling up be a problem? (as you can see in the image below)
enter image description here



And annother important thing: The feeder always grinds into the filament (even at those low retraction settings) and it is always very hard to pull the filament out of the bowden after a failed print. Sometimes its almost impossible and i have to use heavy tools for it.. that should be the probelem
enter image description here



I already did some atomic pulls, replaced the nozzle and switched the bowden tube.



I have a dream: My printer printing a part without any stringing and actually finishing the print. Please help me to achieve this dream..



Thank you for your help in advance. :)



(and the filament I used, sorry for the bad quality of the pic)
enter image description here










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    I own a Creality CR-10 (using Ultimaker Cura for slicing) and I am experiencing terrible printing problems.



    My problem: I am not able to print anything that takes several hours to print. For parts printed in 30 minutes or so, my printer usually works.



    The prints end up like this (unfinished and with a lot of stringing)



    fail



    This below is actually the best result I got so far.. (important note: there is no under extrusion during the print, it suddenly stops out of nowhere..)
    fail2
    (Although I have to use terrible retraction settings and need a lot of post processing because of all the stringing - you might have an answer for that too.. I just couldnt get the 3d printer to print parts properly with good retraction settings.)



    The problem is that at some point of the print, no more (PLA) material is extruded and the printer moves without actually printing anything. The first couple of layers usually work (you can see that in the images) but after wasting almost 600 grams of PLA, I am not able to find a solution myself.



    .



    I have some suspicions:



    Could the problem be the angle, the PLA is inserted into the feeder? (so that it is almost a 90 degree bend)? The filament comes from a spool in the right hand side. But I dont think that this would cause such a problem..



    Angle of inserted filament



    Is it a software problem? Here are all my cura settings (I even reduced the printing speed to 30mm/s at 205°C - still didnt work..) :-(



    enter image description hereenter image description hereenter image description here



    Could the length of the bowden tube and it tangling up be a problem? (as you can see in the image below)
    enter image description here



    And annother important thing: The feeder always grinds into the filament (even at those low retraction settings) and it is always very hard to pull the filament out of the bowden after a failed print. Sometimes its almost impossible and i have to use heavy tools for it.. that should be the probelem
    enter image description here



    I already did some atomic pulls, replaced the nozzle and switched the bowden tube.



    I have a dream: My printer printing a part without any stringing and actually finishing the print. Please help me to achieve this dream..



    Thank you for your help in advance. :)



    (and the filament I used, sorry for the bad quality of the pic)
    enter image description here










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      $begingroup$


      I own a Creality CR-10 (using Ultimaker Cura for slicing) and I am experiencing terrible printing problems.



      My problem: I am not able to print anything that takes several hours to print. For parts printed in 30 minutes or so, my printer usually works.



      The prints end up like this (unfinished and with a lot of stringing)



      fail



      This below is actually the best result I got so far.. (important note: there is no under extrusion during the print, it suddenly stops out of nowhere..)
      fail2
      (Although I have to use terrible retraction settings and need a lot of post processing because of all the stringing - you might have an answer for that too.. I just couldnt get the 3d printer to print parts properly with good retraction settings.)



      The problem is that at some point of the print, no more (PLA) material is extruded and the printer moves without actually printing anything. The first couple of layers usually work (you can see that in the images) but after wasting almost 600 grams of PLA, I am not able to find a solution myself.



      .



      I have some suspicions:



      Could the problem be the angle, the PLA is inserted into the feeder? (so that it is almost a 90 degree bend)? The filament comes from a spool in the right hand side. But I dont think that this would cause such a problem..



      Angle of inserted filament



      Is it a software problem? Here are all my cura settings (I even reduced the printing speed to 30mm/s at 205°C - still didnt work..) :-(



      enter image description hereenter image description hereenter image description here



      Could the length of the bowden tube and it tangling up be a problem? (as you can see in the image below)
      enter image description here



      And annother important thing: The feeder always grinds into the filament (even at those low retraction settings) and it is always very hard to pull the filament out of the bowden after a failed print. Sometimes its almost impossible and i have to use heavy tools for it.. that should be the probelem
      enter image description here



      I already did some atomic pulls, replaced the nozzle and switched the bowden tube.



      I have a dream: My printer printing a part without any stringing and actually finishing the print. Please help me to achieve this dream..



      Thank you for your help in advance. :)



      (and the filament I used, sorry for the bad quality of the pic)
      enter image description here










      share|improve this question











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      I own a Creality CR-10 (using Ultimaker Cura for slicing) and I am experiencing terrible printing problems.



      My problem: I am not able to print anything that takes several hours to print. For parts printed in 30 minutes or so, my printer usually works.



      The prints end up like this (unfinished and with a lot of stringing)



      fail



      This below is actually the best result I got so far.. (important note: there is no under extrusion during the print, it suddenly stops out of nowhere..)
      fail2
      (Although I have to use terrible retraction settings and need a lot of post processing because of all the stringing - you might have an answer for that too.. I just couldnt get the 3d printer to print parts properly with good retraction settings.)



      The problem is that at some point of the print, no more (PLA) material is extruded and the printer moves without actually printing anything. The first couple of layers usually work (you can see that in the images) but after wasting almost 600 grams of PLA, I am not able to find a solution myself.



      .



      I have some suspicions:



      Could the problem be the angle, the PLA is inserted into the feeder? (so that it is almost a 90 degree bend)? The filament comes from a spool in the right hand side. But I dont think that this would cause such a problem..



      Angle of inserted filament



      Is it a software problem? Here are all my cura settings (I even reduced the printing speed to 30mm/s at 205°C - still didnt work..) :-(



      enter image description hereenter image description hereenter image description here



      Could the length of the bowden tube and it tangling up be a problem? (as you can see in the image below)
      enter image description here



      And annother important thing: The feeder always grinds into the filament (even at those low retraction settings) and it is always very hard to pull the filament out of the bowden after a failed print. Sometimes its almost impossible and i have to use heavy tools for it.. that should be the probelem
      enter image description here



      I already did some atomic pulls, replaced the nozzle and switched the bowden tube.



      I have a dream: My printer printing a part without any stringing and actually finishing the print. Please help me to achieve this dream..



      Thank you for your help in advance. :)



      (and the filament I used, sorry for the bad quality of the pic)
      enter image description here







      print-quality filament pla cr-10






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          Stringing?



          The stringing is explained by your relatively low retraction settings, 1.5 mm is not much for a Bowden setup. As do too high printing temperatures.



          Stopping mid printing?



          What you are experiencing is called clogging, the extruder cannot push the filament through the hotend and cause the grinding you report. Clogging mid printing is usually caused by insufficient cooling (for the temperature you print at) of the cold end (causing heat creep; slowly increasing temperature of the heat break), especially all-metal hotend assemblies are notoriously known for this problem.



          Your Bowden tube does make a lot of kinks, maybe you can improve the path of the Bowden tube. Also if you are concerned about the sharp filament intake angle, you could print a filament guide:



          Creality CR-10 extruder assembly with filament guide






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            Thank you, I will try to fix those things. Do you think my problem is software related or is it the hardware? I can only fix this issue by buying a new hotend?
            $endgroup$
            – DonaldEnte
            2 hours ago






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            @DonaldEnte - Get known issues fixed first, then move onto the next problem (if there is a "next problem*). I'm betting your main issues are mechanical having to do mainly with the Bowden tube and how it is run ... that's some pretty healthy kinking going on there.
            $endgroup$
            – Pᴀᴜʟsᴛᴇʀ2
            2 hours ago






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            $begingroup$
            Clogging implies heat creep, and heat creep implies overly hot printing temperature (assuming that the heat break cooling is vaguely normal). Printing too hot can also cause excessive stringing, so reducing print temp might kill two birds with one stone.
            $endgroup$
            – anaximander
            56 mins ago












          • $begingroup$
            @anaximander Great addition, I made it a little more clear in the answer.
            $endgroup$
            – 0scar
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          $begingroup$

          Stringing?



          The stringing is explained by your relatively low retraction settings, 1.5 mm is not much for a Bowden setup. As do too high printing temperatures.



          Stopping mid printing?



          What you are experiencing is called clogging, the extruder cannot push the filament through the hotend and cause the grinding you report. Clogging mid printing is usually caused by insufficient cooling (for the temperature you print at) of the cold end (causing heat creep; slowly increasing temperature of the heat break), especially all-metal hotend assemblies are notoriously known for this problem.



          Your Bowden tube does make a lot of kinks, maybe you can improve the path of the Bowden tube. Also if you are concerned about the sharp filament intake angle, you could print a filament guide:



          Creality CR-10 extruder assembly with filament guide






          share|improve this answer











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          • $begingroup$
            Thank you, I will try to fix those things. Do you think my problem is software related or is it the hardware? I can only fix this issue by buying a new hotend?
            $endgroup$
            – DonaldEnte
            2 hours ago






          • 2




            $begingroup$
            @DonaldEnte - Get known issues fixed first, then move onto the next problem (if there is a "next problem*). I'm betting your main issues are mechanical having to do mainly with the Bowden tube and how it is run ... that's some pretty healthy kinking going on there.
            $endgroup$
            – Pᴀᴜʟsᴛᴇʀ2
            2 hours ago






          • 1




            $begingroup$
            Clogging implies heat creep, and heat creep implies overly hot printing temperature (assuming that the heat break cooling is vaguely normal). Printing too hot can also cause excessive stringing, so reducing print temp might kill two birds with one stone.
            $endgroup$
            – anaximander
            56 mins ago












          • $begingroup$
            @anaximander Great addition, I made it a little more clear in the answer.
            $endgroup$
            – 0scar
            46 mins ago
















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          $begingroup$

          Stringing?



          The stringing is explained by your relatively low retraction settings, 1.5 mm is not much for a Bowden setup. As do too high printing temperatures.



          Stopping mid printing?



          What you are experiencing is called clogging, the extruder cannot push the filament through the hotend and cause the grinding you report. Clogging mid printing is usually caused by insufficient cooling (for the temperature you print at) of the cold end (causing heat creep; slowly increasing temperature of the heat break), especially all-metal hotend assemblies are notoriously known for this problem.



          Your Bowden tube does make a lot of kinks, maybe you can improve the path of the Bowden tube. Also if you are concerned about the sharp filament intake angle, you could print a filament guide:



          Creality CR-10 extruder assembly with filament guide






          share|improve this answer











          $endgroup$













          • $begingroup$
            Thank you, I will try to fix those things. Do you think my problem is software related or is it the hardware? I can only fix this issue by buying a new hotend?
            $endgroup$
            – DonaldEnte
            2 hours ago






          • 2




            $begingroup$
            @DonaldEnte - Get known issues fixed first, then move onto the next problem (if there is a "next problem*). I'm betting your main issues are mechanical having to do mainly with the Bowden tube and how it is run ... that's some pretty healthy kinking going on there.
            $endgroup$
            – Pᴀᴜʟsᴛᴇʀ2
            2 hours ago






          • 1




            $begingroup$
            Clogging implies heat creep, and heat creep implies overly hot printing temperature (assuming that the heat break cooling is vaguely normal). Printing too hot can also cause excessive stringing, so reducing print temp might kill two birds with one stone.
            $endgroup$
            – anaximander
            56 mins ago












          • $begingroup$
            @anaximander Great addition, I made it a little more clear in the answer.
            $endgroup$
            – 0scar
            46 mins ago














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          4








          4





          $begingroup$

          Stringing?



          The stringing is explained by your relatively low retraction settings, 1.5 mm is not much for a Bowden setup. As do too high printing temperatures.



          Stopping mid printing?



          What you are experiencing is called clogging, the extruder cannot push the filament through the hotend and cause the grinding you report. Clogging mid printing is usually caused by insufficient cooling (for the temperature you print at) of the cold end (causing heat creep; slowly increasing temperature of the heat break), especially all-metal hotend assemblies are notoriously known for this problem.



          Your Bowden tube does make a lot of kinks, maybe you can improve the path of the Bowden tube. Also if you are concerned about the sharp filament intake angle, you could print a filament guide:



          Creality CR-10 extruder assembly with filament guide






          share|improve this answer











          $endgroup$



          Stringing?



          The stringing is explained by your relatively low retraction settings, 1.5 mm is not much for a Bowden setup. As do too high printing temperatures.



          Stopping mid printing?



          What you are experiencing is called clogging, the extruder cannot push the filament through the hotend and cause the grinding you report. Clogging mid printing is usually caused by insufficient cooling (for the temperature you print at) of the cold end (causing heat creep; slowly increasing temperature of the heat break), especially all-metal hotend assemblies are notoriously known for this problem.



          Your Bowden tube does make a lot of kinks, maybe you can improve the path of the Bowden tube. Also if you are concerned about the sharp filament intake angle, you could print a filament guide:



          Creality CR-10 extruder assembly with filament guide







          share|improve this answer














          share|improve this answer



          share|improve this answer








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          • $begingroup$
            Thank you, I will try to fix those things. Do you think my problem is software related or is it the hardware? I can only fix this issue by buying a new hotend?
            $endgroup$
            – DonaldEnte
            2 hours ago






          • 2




            $begingroup$
            @DonaldEnte - Get known issues fixed first, then move onto the next problem (if there is a "next problem*). I'm betting your main issues are mechanical having to do mainly with the Bowden tube and how it is run ... that's some pretty healthy kinking going on there.
            $endgroup$
            – Pᴀᴜʟsᴛᴇʀ2
            2 hours ago






          • 1




            $begingroup$
            Clogging implies heat creep, and heat creep implies overly hot printing temperature (assuming that the heat break cooling is vaguely normal). Printing too hot can also cause excessive stringing, so reducing print temp might kill two birds with one stone.
            $endgroup$
            – anaximander
            56 mins ago












          • $begingroup$
            @anaximander Great addition, I made it a little more clear in the answer.
            $endgroup$
            – 0scar
            46 mins ago


















          • $begingroup$
            Thank you, I will try to fix those things. Do you think my problem is software related or is it the hardware? I can only fix this issue by buying a new hotend?
            $endgroup$
            – DonaldEnte
            2 hours ago






          • 2




            $begingroup$
            @DonaldEnte - Get known issues fixed first, then move onto the next problem (if there is a "next problem*). I'm betting your main issues are mechanical having to do mainly with the Bowden tube and how it is run ... that's some pretty healthy kinking going on there.
            $endgroup$
            – Pᴀᴜʟsᴛᴇʀ2
            2 hours ago






          • 1




            $begingroup$
            Clogging implies heat creep, and heat creep implies overly hot printing temperature (assuming that the heat break cooling is vaguely normal). Printing too hot can also cause excessive stringing, so reducing print temp might kill two birds with one stone.
            $endgroup$
            – anaximander
            56 mins ago












          • $begingroup$
            @anaximander Great addition, I made it a little more clear in the answer.
            $endgroup$
            – 0scar
            46 mins ago
















          $begingroup$
          Thank you, I will try to fix those things. Do you think my problem is software related or is it the hardware? I can only fix this issue by buying a new hotend?
          $endgroup$
          – DonaldEnte
          2 hours ago




          $begingroup$
          Thank you, I will try to fix those things. Do you think my problem is software related or is it the hardware? I can only fix this issue by buying a new hotend?
          $endgroup$
          – DonaldEnte
          2 hours ago




          2




          2




          $begingroup$
          @DonaldEnte - Get known issues fixed first, then move onto the next problem (if there is a "next problem*). I'm betting your main issues are mechanical having to do mainly with the Bowden tube and how it is run ... that's some pretty healthy kinking going on there.
          $endgroup$
          – Pᴀᴜʟsᴛᴇʀ2
          2 hours ago




          $begingroup$
          @DonaldEnte - Get known issues fixed first, then move onto the next problem (if there is a "next problem*). I'm betting your main issues are mechanical having to do mainly with the Bowden tube and how it is run ... that's some pretty healthy kinking going on there.
          $endgroup$
          – Pᴀᴜʟsᴛᴇʀ2
          2 hours ago




          1




          1




          $begingroup$
          Clogging implies heat creep, and heat creep implies overly hot printing temperature (assuming that the heat break cooling is vaguely normal). Printing too hot can also cause excessive stringing, so reducing print temp might kill two birds with one stone.
          $endgroup$
          – anaximander
          56 mins ago






          $begingroup$
          Clogging implies heat creep, and heat creep implies overly hot printing temperature (assuming that the heat break cooling is vaguely normal). Printing too hot can also cause excessive stringing, so reducing print temp might kill two birds with one stone.
          $endgroup$
          – anaximander
          56 mins ago














          $begingroup$
          @anaximander Great addition, I made it a little more clear in the answer.
          $endgroup$
          – 0scar
          46 mins ago




          $begingroup$
          @anaximander Great addition, I made it a little more clear in the answer.
          $endgroup$
          – 0scar
          46 mins ago


















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