How did Theresa May remain PM after her Brexit-deal was rejected?
As far as I understand, Theresa May was elected to the leader of the Conservatives (and consequently Prime Minister of the UK) to make a Brexit deal (source):
She [May] said there was a "big job" ahead to unite the party and the country following the referendum, to "negotiate the best possible deal as we leave the EU" and to "make Britain work for everyone".
She added: "I am the only candidate capable of delivering these three things as prime minister[...]"
She worked for two years on a deal that the Parliament eventually rejected, so she failed her main(?) task. Yet next day the very same Parliament gave her confidence that she should continue governing (and achieve a Brexit-deal). How do MPs explain that on Tuesday they reject her deal, but on Wednesday they trust her to continue to get an acceptable deal (which she failed to do in two years, according to the vote the previous day)?
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As far as I understand, Theresa May was elected to the leader of the Conservatives (and consequently Prime Minister of the UK) to make a Brexit deal (source):
She [May] said there was a "big job" ahead to unite the party and the country following the referendum, to "negotiate the best possible deal as we leave the EU" and to "make Britain work for everyone".
She added: "I am the only candidate capable of delivering these three things as prime minister[...]"
She worked for two years on a deal that the Parliament eventually rejected, so she failed her main(?) task. Yet next day the very same Parliament gave her confidence that she should continue governing (and achieve a Brexit-deal). How do MPs explain that on Tuesday they reject her deal, but on Wednesday they trust her to continue to get an acceptable deal (which she failed to do in two years, according to the vote the previous day)?
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"So she failed her main(?) task." You're right to put the question mark in. Her main task is being the Prime Minister, Brexit gets a lot of headlines but it's by no means her main responsibility.
– JeffUK
6 mins ago
@JeffUK In the source I quoted she seemed to outline her job. I guess she did unite her party (at least for the no confidence vote), but I as far as I understand, she did not unite the country, the UK seems to be quite divided. "make Britain work for everyone" sounds really vague, I don't know how she stands with it. Her deal was rejected. So at most she achieved half of what she set out to do.
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As far as I understand, Theresa May was elected to the leader of the Conservatives (and consequently Prime Minister of the UK) to make a Brexit deal (source):
She [May] said there was a "big job" ahead to unite the party and the country following the referendum, to "negotiate the best possible deal as we leave the EU" and to "make Britain work for everyone".
She added: "I am the only candidate capable of delivering these three things as prime minister[...]"
She worked for two years on a deal that the Parliament eventually rejected, so she failed her main(?) task. Yet next day the very same Parliament gave her confidence that she should continue governing (and achieve a Brexit-deal). How do MPs explain that on Tuesday they reject her deal, but on Wednesday they trust her to continue to get an acceptable deal (which she failed to do in two years, according to the vote the previous day)?
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As far as I understand, Theresa May was elected to the leader of the Conservatives (and consequently Prime Minister of the UK) to make a Brexit deal (source):
She [May] said there was a "big job" ahead to unite the party and the country following the referendum, to "negotiate the best possible deal as we leave the EU" and to "make Britain work for everyone".
She added: "I am the only candidate capable of delivering these three things as prime minister[...]"
She worked for two years on a deal that the Parliament eventually rejected, so she failed her main(?) task. Yet next day the very same Parliament gave her confidence that she should continue governing (and achieve a Brexit-deal). How do MPs explain that on Tuesday they reject her deal, but on Wednesday they trust her to continue to get an acceptable deal (which she failed to do in two years, according to the vote the previous day)?
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"So she failed her main(?) task." You're right to put the question mark in. Her main task is being the Prime Minister, Brexit gets a lot of headlines but it's by no means her main responsibility.
– JeffUK
6 mins ago
@JeffUK In the source I quoted she seemed to outline her job. I guess she did unite her party (at least for the no confidence vote), but I as far as I understand, she did not unite the country, the UK seems to be quite divided. "make Britain work for everyone" sounds really vague, I don't know how she stands with it. Her deal was rejected. So at most she achieved half of what she set out to do.
– user2414208
25 secs ago
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"So she failed her main(?) task." You're right to put the question mark in. Her main task is being the Prime Minister, Brexit gets a lot of headlines but it's by no means her main responsibility.
– JeffUK
6 mins ago
@JeffUK In the source I quoted she seemed to outline her job. I guess she did unite her party (at least for the no confidence vote), but I as far as I understand, she did not unite the country, the UK seems to be quite divided. "make Britain work for everyone" sounds really vague, I don't know how she stands with it. Her deal was rejected. So at most she achieved half of what she set out to do.
– user2414208
25 secs ago
"So she failed her main(?) task." You're right to put the question mark in. Her main task is being the Prime Minister, Brexit gets a lot of headlines but it's by no means her main responsibility.
– JeffUK
6 mins ago
"So she failed her main(?) task." You're right to put the question mark in. Her main task is being the Prime Minister, Brexit gets a lot of headlines but it's by no means her main responsibility.
– JeffUK
6 mins ago
@JeffUK In the source I quoted she seemed to outline her job. I guess she did unite her party (at least for the no confidence vote), but I as far as I understand, she did not unite the country, the UK seems to be quite divided. "make Britain work for everyone" sounds really vague, I don't know how she stands with it. Her deal was rejected. So at most she achieved half of what she set out to do.
– user2414208
25 secs ago
@JeffUK In the source I quoted she seemed to outline her job. I guess she did unite her party (at least for the no confidence vote), but I as far as I understand, she did not unite the country, the UK seems to be quite divided. "make Britain work for everyone" sounds really vague, I don't know how she stands with it. Her deal was rejected. So at most she achieved half of what she set out to do.
– user2414208
25 secs ago
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That is because there is a likelihood that the opposition party will gain power should the government be defeated in the confidence vote.
According to the Fixed-term Parliaments Act 2011, the government has 14 days to try to form a new government or an early election will have to be called. The new government formed will also be subjected to a confidence vote.
The Act specifies that early elections can be held only:
[ ... ]
if a motion of no confidence is passed and no alternative government is confirmed by the Commons within 14 days.
The Conservative Party is currently in power on a "confidence and supply" arrangement with the Democratic Unionist Party.
It would be difficult for the Conservative Party to find another party to form a "confidence and supply" arrangement. After the 2017 general elections, the Liberal Democrats expressed skepticism on forming a government with the Conservative Party, the Scottish National Party is opposed to the Conservative Party while the Sinn Féin has an abstentionist policy. These are the three parties with enough seats to prop up the government.
After the damage inflicted on the Liberal Democrats by their coalition deal with the Conservatives in 2010-15, the centrist party ruled out any reprise. There was also no chance of a Conservative deal with the Scottish National Party (SNP), which won 35 seats but which is resolutely opposed to the Tories on both constitutional and economic questions. It appears that no one has even contemplated a grand coalition between Labour and the Conservatives, an arrangement that works in Germany but which is alien to the UK other than in wartime.
Source: The Conservation: Can a minority Conservative government survive? Let’s look at the maths
It's also worth noting that it is rare for a party's own MPs to vote against their government in a confidence motion.
Most governments are defeated after the "confidence and supply" party (in the current case, the DUP) votes against it. However, the DUP is opposed to a Corbyn government so they continue to prop up the incumbent Conservative Party government.
Not surprisingly, MPs voted entirely along party lines on the confidence motion:
If no new government could be formed, an early election must be held in which the Labour Party is currently in good shape to win.
As such, either way, the opposition Labour Party will likely gain power should the incumbent Conservative Party be defeated in the confidence vote.
1
Great answer. Besides the fear of Jeremy Corbyn becoming Prime Minister, a factor that is rarely brought up is what might happen to a Conservative MP who votes against their own party (or abstains). It can be speculated that they would be expelled from the party, which besides any personal and professional turmoil that would cause, would make it hard for them to be re-elected at the next election, as they would have to stand as an independent, or possibly for another party.
– Steve Melnikoff
51 mins ago
2
worth pointing out that if Corbyn had thought he'd win the motion he probably wouldn't have tabled it...
– Orangesandlemons
38 mins ago
I understand the motivation ("I want to stay in power!"), but it's not something an MP could tell her/his voters. What is they could tell?
– user2414208
6 mins ago
add a comment |
Because, I think, no one want to be on Prime-Minister place during Brexit. Just imagine amount of problems coming - with borders, economy, bank sector especially. For now, responsibility for all Brexit-coming problems will lie on the May's goverment. On the next elections, May's goverment will be associtated with all Brexit stuff, not the new-elected.
MPs don't like May's Brexit-deal. But they also don't want to take responsibility on concequences, by substituting May's goverment themselves.
No one in politics ever wants to be the one to bell the cat.
– Jared Smith
1 min ago
add a comment |
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That is because there is a likelihood that the opposition party will gain power should the government be defeated in the confidence vote.
According to the Fixed-term Parliaments Act 2011, the government has 14 days to try to form a new government or an early election will have to be called. The new government formed will also be subjected to a confidence vote.
The Act specifies that early elections can be held only:
[ ... ]
if a motion of no confidence is passed and no alternative government is confirmed by the Commons within 14 days.
The Conservative Party is currently in power on a "confidence and supply" arrangement with the Democratic Unionist Party.
It would be difficult for the Conservative Party to find another party to form a "confidence and supply" arrangement. After the 2017 general elections, the Liberal Democrats expressed skepticism on forming a government with the Conservative Party, the Scottish National Party is opposed to the Conservative Party while the Sinn Féin has an abstentionist policy. These are the three parties with enough seats to prop up the government.
After the damage inflicted on the Liberal Democrats by their coalition deal with the Conservatives in 2010-15, the centrist party ruled out any reprise. There was also no chance of a Conservative deal with the Scottish National Party (SNP), which won 35 seats but which is resolutely opposed to the Tories on both constitutional and economic questions. It appears that no one has even contemplated a grand coalition between Labour and the Conservatives, an arrangement that works in Germany but which is alien to the UK other than in wartime.
Source: The Conservation: Can a minority Conservative government survive? Let’s look at the maths
It's also worth noting that it is rare for a party's own MPs to vote against their government in a confidence motion.
Most governments are defeated after the "confidence and supply" party (in the current case, the DUP) votes against it. However, the DUP is opposed to a Corbyn government so they continue to prop up the incumbent Conservative Party government.
Not surprisingly, MPs voted entirely along party lines on the confidence motion:
If no new government could be formed, an early election must be held in which the Labour Party is currently in good shape to win.
As such, either way, the opposition Labour Party will likely gain power should the incumbent Conservative Party be defeated in the confidence vote.
1
Great answer. Besides the fear of Jeremy Corbyn becoming Prime Minister, a factor that is rarely brought up is what might happen to a Conservative MP who votes against their own party (or abstains). It can be speculated that they would be expelled from the party, which besides any personal and professional turmoil that would cause, would make it hard for them to be re-elected at the next election, as they would have to stand as an independent, or possibly for another party.
– Steve Melnikoff
51 mins ago
2
worth pointing out that if Corbyn had thought he'd win the motion he probably wouldn't have tabled it...
– Orangesandlemons
38 mins ago
I understand the motivation ("I want to stay in power!"), but it's not something an MP could tell her/his voters. What is they could tell?
– user2414208
6 mins ago
add a comment |
That is because there is a likelihood that the opposition party will gain power should the government be defeated in the confidence vote.
According to the Fixed-term Parliaments Act 2011, the government has 14 days to try to form a new government or an early election will have to be called. The new government formed will also be subjected to a confidence vote.
The Act specifies that early elections can be held only:
[ ... ]
if a motion of no confidence is passed and no alternative government is confirmed by the Commons within 14 days.
The Conservative Party is currently in power on a "confidence and supply" arrangement with the Democratic Unionist Party.
It would be difficult for the Conservative Party to find another party to form a "confidence and supply" arrangement. After the 2017 general elections, the Liberal Democrats expressed skepticism on forming a government with the Conservative Party, the Scottish National Party is opposed to the Conservative Party while the Sinn Féin has an abstentionist policy. These are the three parties with enough seats to prop up the government.
After the damage inflicted on the Liberal Democrats by their coalition deal with the Conservatives in 2010-15, the centrist party ruled out any reprise. There was also no chance of a Conservative deal with the Scottish National Party (SNP), which won 35 seats but which is resolutely opposed to the Tories on both constitutional and economic questions. It appears that no one has even contemplated a grand coalition between Labour and the Conservatives, an arrangement that works in Germany but which is alien to the UK other than in wartime.
Source: The Conservation: Can a minority Conservative government survive? Let’s look at the maths
It's also worth noting that it is rare for a party's own MPs to vote against their government in a confidence motion.
Most governments are defeated after the "confidence and supply" party (in the current case, the DUP) votes against it. However, the DUP is opposed to a Corbyn government so they continue to prop up the incumbent Conservative Party government.
Not surprisingly, MPs voted entirely along party lines on the confidence motion:
If no new government could be formed, an early election must be held in which the Labour Party is currently in good shape to win.
As such, either way, the opposition Labour Party will likely gain power should the incumbent Conservative Party be defeated in the confidence vote.
1
Great answer. Besides the fear of Jeremy Corbyn becoming Prime Minister, a factor that is rarely brought up is what might happen to a Conservative MP who votes against their own party (or abstains). It can be speculated that they would be expelled from the party, which besides any personal and professional turmoil that would cause, would make it hard for them to be re-elected at the next election, as they would have to stand as an independent, or possibly for another party.
– Steve Melnikoff
51 mins ago
2
worth pointing out that if Corbyn had thought he'd win the motion he probably wouldn't have tabled it...
– Orangesandlemons
38 mins ago
I understand the motivation ("I want to stay in power!"), but it's not something an MP could tell her/his voters. What is they could tell?
– user2414208
6 mins ago
add a comment |
That is because there is a likelihood that the opposition party will gain power should the government be defeated in the confidence vote.
According to the Fixed-term Parliaments Act 2011, the government has 14 days to try to form a new government or an early election will have to be called. The new government formed will also be subjected to a confidence vote.
The Act specifies that early elections can be held only:
[ ... ]
if a motion of no confidence is passed and no alternative government is confirmed by the Commons within 14 days.
The Conservative Party is currently in power on a "confidence and supply" arrangement with the Democratic Unionist Party.
It would be difficult for the Conservative Party to find another party to form a "confidence and supply" arrangement. After the 2017 general elections, the Liberal Democrats expressed skepticism on forming a government with the Conservative Party, the Scottish National Party is opposed to the Conservative Party while the Sinn Féin has an abstentionist policy. These are the three parties with enough seats to prop up the government.
After the damage inflicted on the Liberal Democrats by their coalition deal with the Conservatives in 2010-15, the centrist party ruled out any reprise. There was also no chance of a Conservative deal with the Scottish National Party (SNP), which won 35 seats but which is resolutely opposed to the Tories on both constitutional and economic questions. It appears that no one has even contemplated a grand coalition between Labour and the Conservatives, an arrangement that works in Germany but which is alien to the UK other than in wartime.
Source: The Conservation: Can a minority Conservative government survive? Let’s look at the maths
It's also worth noting that it is rare for a party's own MPs to vote against their government in a confidence motion.
Most governments are defeated after the "confidence and supply" party (in the current case, the DUP) votes against it. However, the DUP is opposed to a Corbyn government so they continue to prop up the incumbent Conservative Party government.
Not surprisingly, MPs voted entirely along party lines on the confidence motion:
If no new government could be formed, an early election must be held in which the Labour Party is currently in good shape to win.
As such, either way, the opposition Labour Party will likely gain power should the incumbent Conservative Party be defeated in the confidence vote.
That is because there is a likelihood that the opposition party will gain power should the government be defeated in the confidence vote.
According to the Fixed-term Parliaments Act 2011, the government has 14 days to try to form a new government or an early election will have to be called. The new government formed will also be subjected to a confidence vote.
The Act specifies that early elections can be held only:
[ ... ]
if a motion of no confidence is passed and no alternative government is confirmed by the Commons within 14 days.
The Conservative Party is currently in power on a "confidence and supply" arrangement with the Democratic Unionist Party.
It would be difficult for the Conservative Party to find another party to form a "confidence and supply" arrangement. After the 2017 general elections, the Liberal Democrats expressed skepticism on forming a government with the Conservative Party, the Scottish National Party is opposed to the Conservative Party while the Sinn Féin has an abstentionist policy. These are the three parties with enough seats to prop up the government.
After the damage inflicted on the Liberal Democrats by their coalition deal with the Conservatives in 2010-15, the centrist party ruled out any reprise. There was also no chance of a Conservative deal with the Scottish National Party (SNP), which won 35 seats but which is resolutely opposed to the Tories on both constitutional and economic questions. It appears that no one has even contemplated a grand coalition between Labour and the Conservatives, an arrangement that works in Germany but which is alien to the UK other than in wartime.
Source: The Conservation: Can a minority Conservative government survive? Let’s look at the maths
It's also worth noting that it is rare for a party's own MPs to vote against their government in a confidence motion.
Most governments are defeated after the "confidence and supply" party (in the current case, the DUP) votes against it. However, the DUP is opposed to a Corbyn government so they continue to prop up the incumbent Conservative Party government.
Not surprisingly, MPs voted entirely along party lines on the confidence motion:
If no new government could be formed, an early election must be held in which the Labour Party is currently in good shape to win.
As such, either way, the opposition Labour Party will likely gain power should the incumbent Conservative Party be defeated in the confidence vote.
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Great answer. Besides the fear of Jeremy Corbyn becoming Prime Minister, a factor that is rarely brought up is what might happen to a Conservative MP who votes against their own party (or abstains). It can be speculated that they would be expelled from the party, which besides any personal and professional turmoil that would cause, would make it hard for them to be re-elected at the next election, as they would have to stand as an independent, or possibly for another party.
– Steve Melnikoff
51 mins ago
2
worth pointing out that if Corbyn had thought he'd win the motion he probably wouldn't have tabled it...
– Orangesandlemons
38 mins ago
I understand the motivation ("I want to stay in power!"), but it's not something an MP could tell her/his voters. What is they could tell?
– user2414208
6 mins ago
add a comment |
1
Great answer. Besides the fear of Jeremy Corbyn becoming Prime Minister, a factor that is rarely brought up is what might happen to a Conservative MP who votes against their own party (or abstains). It can be speculated that they would be expelled from the party, which besides any personal and professional turmoil that would cause, would make it hard for them to be re-elected at the next election, as they would have to stand as an independent, or possibly for another party.
– Steve Melnikoff
51 mins ago
2
worth pointing out that if Corbyn had thought he'd win the motion he probably wouldn't have tabled it...
– Orangesandlemons
38 mins ago
I understand the motivation ("I want to stay in power!"), but it's not something an MP could tell her/his voters. What is they could tell?
– user2414208
6 mins ago
1
1
Great answer. Besides the fear of Jeremy Corbyn becoming Prime Minister, a factor that is rarely brought up is what might happen to a Conservative MP who votes against their own party (or abstains). It can be speculated that they would be expelled from the party, which besides any personal and professional turmoil that would cause, would make it hard for them to be re-elected at the next election, as they would have to stand as an independent, or possibly for another party.
– Steve Melnikoff
51 mins ago
Great answer. Besides the fear of Jeremy Corbyn becoming Prime Minister, a factor that is rarely brought up is what might happen to a Conservative MP who votes against their own party (or abstains). It can be speculated that they would be expelled from the party, which besides any personal and professional turmoil that would cause, would make it hard for them to be re-elected at the next election, as they would have to stand as an independent, or possibly for another party.
– Steve Melnikoff
51 mins ago
2
2
worth pointing out that if Corbyn had thought he'd win the motion he probably wouldn't have tabled it...
– Orangesandlemons
38 mins ago
worth pointing out that if Corbyn had thought he'd win the motion he probably wouldn't have tabled it...
– Orangesandlemons
38 mins ago
I understand the motivation ("I want to stay in power!"), but it's not something an MP could tell her/his voters. What is they could tell?
– user2414208
6 mins ago
I understand the motivation ("I want to stay in power!"), but it's not something an MP could tell her/his voters. What is they could tell?
– user2414208
6 mins ago
add a comment |
Because, I think, no one want to be on Prime-Minister place during Brexit. Just imagine amount of problems coming - with borders, economy, bank sector especially. For now, responsibility for all Brexit-coming problems will lie on the May's goverment. On the next elections, May's goverment will be associtated with all Brexit stuff, not the new-elected.
MPs don't like May's Brexit-deal. But they also don't want to take responsibility on concequences, by substituting May's goverment themselves.
No one in politics ever wants to be the one to bell the cat.
– Jared Smith
1 min ago
add a comment |
Because, I think, no one want to be on Prime-Minister place during Brexit. Just imagine amount of problems coming - with borders, economy, bank sector especially. For now, responsibility for all Brexit-coming problems will lie on the May's goverment. On the next elections, May's goverment will be associtated with all Brexit stuff, not the new-elected.
MPs don't like May's Brexit-deal. But they also don't want to take responsibility on concequences, by substituting May's goverment themselves.
No one in politics ever wants to be the one to bell the cat.
– Jared Smith
1 min ago
add a comment |
Because, I think, no one want to be on Prime-Minister place during Brexit. Just imagine amount of problems coming - with borders, economy, bank sector especially. For now, responsibility for all Brexit-coming problems will lie on the May's goverment. On the next elections, May's goverment will be associtated with all Brexit stuff, not the new-elected.
MPs don't like May's Brexit-deal. But they also don't want to take responsibility on concequences, by substituting May's goverment themselves.
Because, I think, no one want to be on Prime-Minister place during Brexit. Just imagine amount of problems coming - with borders, economy, bank sector especially. For now, responsibility for all Brexit-coming problems will lie on the May's goverment. On the next elections, May's goverment will be associtated with all Brexit stuff, not the new-elected.
MPs don't like May's Brexit-deal. But they also don't want to take responsibility on concequences, by substituting May's goverment themselves.
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No one in politics ever wants to be the one to bell the cat.
– Jared Smith
1 min ago
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No one in politics ever wants to be the one to bell the cat.
– Jared Smith
1 min ago
No one in politics ever wants to be the one to bell the cat.
– Jared Smith
1 min ago
No one in politics ever wants to be the one to bell the cat.
– Jared Smith
1 min ago
add a comment |
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"So she failed her main(?) task." You're right to put the question mark in. Her main task is being the Prime Minister, Brexit gets a lot of headlines but it's by no means her main responsibility.
– JeffUK
6 mins ago
@JeffUK In the source I quoted she seemed to outline her job. I guess she did unite her party (at least for the no confidence vote), but I as far as I understand, she did not unite the country, the UK seems to be quite divided. "make Britain work for everyone" sounds really vague, I don't know how she stands with it. Her deal was rejected. So at most she achieved half of what she set out to do.
– user2414208
25 secs ago