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I have a scene where a character is applying to be released from prison pending trial. I want an arbitrary / unfair reason for the judge to dislike him. It has to be something that is not justified to keep him in prison (ie, risk of committing further offences, running away, or interfering with witnesses).



I was thinking something like he is rude to the judge/police, he has some character flaw that people don't tend to like etc.



EDIT: In response to the helpful answer below, it occurred to me that I should have pointed out that it would be good for it to be something that the readers wouldn't like either.



I'd really appreciate any ideas!










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    I have voted to close this question as you're asking us what to write / to suggest ideas for your story. StackExchange is a question-and-answer forum intended for everyone to benefit from the questions. That being said, it sounds like you need flesh out the Judge as a character. Explore them, maybe even write a short interview with them to find out what kind of character they are, and then it should be obvious why they were prejudicial to your character.

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I have a scene where a character is applying to be released from prison pending trial. I want an arbitrary / unfair reason for the judge to dislike him. It has to be something that is not justified to keep him in prison (ie, risk of committing further offences, running away, or interfering with witnesses).



I was thinking something like he is rude to the judge/police, he has some character flaw that people don't tend to like etc.



EDIT: In response to the helpful answer below, it occurred to me that I should have pointed out that it would be good for it to be something that the readers wouldn't like either.



I'd really appreciate any ideas!










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  • "This question appears to be off-topic because asking what to write or asking for help rephrasing a sentence or passage are both off-topic here, as such questions are very unlikely to help anybody else." – Galastel, Erdrik Ironrose, Standback, Sara Costa, Cyn

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    I have voted to close this question as you're asking us what to write / to suggest ideas for your story. StackExchange is a question-and-answer forum intended for everyone to benefit from the questions. That being said, it sounds like you need flesh out the Judge as a character. Explore them, maybe even write a short interview with them to find out what kind of character they are, and then it should be obvious why they were prejudicial to your character.

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    3 hours ago














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I have a scene where a character is applying to be released from prison pending trial. I want an arbitrary / unfair reason for the judge to dislike him. It has to be something that is not justified to keep him in prison (ie, risk of committing further offences, running away, or interfering with witnesses).



I was thinking something like he is rude to the judge/police, he has some character flaw that people don't tend to like etc.



EDIT: In response to the helpful answer below, it occurred to me that I should have pointed out that it would be good for it to be something that the readers wouldn't like either.



I'd really appreciate any ideas!










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I have a scene where a character is applying to be released from prison pending trial. I want an arbitrary / unfair reason for the judge to dislike him. It has to be something that is not justified to keep him in prison (ie, risk of committing further offences, running away, or interfering with witnesses).



I was thinking something like he is rude to the judge/police, he has some character flaw that people don't tend to like etc.



EDIT: In response to the helpful answer below, it occurred to me that I should have pointed out that it would be good for it to be something that the readers wouldn't like either.



I'd really appreciate any ideas!







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    I have voted to close this question as you're asking us what to write / to suggest ideas for your story. StackExchange is a question-and-answer forum intended for everyone to benefit from the questions. That being said, it sounds like you need flesh out the Judge as a character. Explore them, maybe even write a short interview with them to find out what kind of character they are, and then it should be obvious why they were prejudicial to your character.

    – Erdrik Ironrose
    3 hours ago














  • 3





    I have voted to close this question as you're asking us what to write / to suggest ideas for your story. StackExchange is a question-and-answer forum intended for everyone to benefit from the questions. That being said, it sounds like you need flesh out the Judge as a character. Explore them, maybe even write a short interview with them to find out what kind of character they are, and then it should be obvious why they were prejudicial to your character.

    – Erdrik Ironrose
    3 hours ago








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I have voted to close this question as you're asking us what to write / to suggest ideas for your story. StackExchange is a question-and-answer forum intended for everyone to benefit from the questions. That being said, it sounds like you need flesh out the Judge as a character. Explore them, maybe even write a short interview with them to find out what kind of character they are, and then it should be obvious why they were prejudicial to your character.

– Erdrik Ironrose
3 hours ago





I have voted to close this question as you're asking us what to write / to suggest ideas for your story. StackExchange is a question-and-answer forum intended for everyone to benefit from the questions. That being said, it sounds like you need flesh out the Judge as a character. Explore them, maybe even write a short interview with them to find out what kind of character they are, and then it should be obvious why they were prejudicial to your character.

– Erdrik Ironrose
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Have you considered racism? May not fit with your story, but maybe some kind of societal objection ... like wrong accent, hair too long, tattoos ... all arbitrary, but could influence someone to be more harsh/unfair.






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  • Thanks @Peter! Yes, racism had occurred to me, and would probably be a fairly good candidate, but I was hoping for something more subtle, and also I was hoping it would be something that the reader would also dislike the character for! (I'll amend the question now to reflect that.)

    – Poul
    3 hours ago











  • Perhaps, in that case, the issue could be with his attitude to the crime for which he is to stand trial. Contempt for the victim(s), or an attitude which shows that he doesn't consider the offence a big deal.

    – Peter Woolley
    2 hours ago



















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In a modern setting, the prosecution may submit something like blogs or emails intended to prove the defendant was involved in some crime or had knowledge of it.



But the judge, in reading these blogs, finds the defendant's other opinions repellent, even though legal. These could be talking about a callous attitude toward women, for example, or how he insisted his girlfriend have an abortion, or a liberal attitude about drugs or immigrants, or any number of other things allowed as free speech, that grates on the judge.



In any case by reading the defendant's communications, the judge just doesn't like the defendant as a person or human being, even though the behavior itself does not rise to the level of criminal activity; it is just an "ick" factor for the judge and the reader.






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  • Yes, the callous attitude was exactly the type of thing I was thinking. Plus you've also added a way for the judge to find out this 'irrelevant' information in a plausible way. Thank you!

    – Poul
    2 hours ago











  • @Poul Vote up the answers you like, it doesn't cost you anything.

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You don't need a valid/justifiable reason to dislike someone.



Maybe the judge didn't even care.



Maybe he was just watching porn on his smart phone and decided to reject the appeal, because that's his default answer...



The point is, it is hard work to explain why the judge dislikes him.. ;)



All you want to do is to have the guy stay in prison for the wrong reasons, and have the judge be the 'bad' guy...



So why not just go for it?



You can throw in whatever you want the readers to not like about him in the story.. And it didn't even matter ...






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    Have you considered racism? May not fit with your story, but maybe some kind of societal objection ... like wrong accent, hair too long, tattoos ... all arbitrary, but could influence someone to be more harsh/unfair.






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    • Thanks @Peter! Yes, racism had occurred to me, and would probably be a fairly good candidate, but I was hoping for something more subtle, and also I was hoping it would be something that the reader would also dislike the character for! (I'll amend the question now to reflect that.)

      – Poul
      3 hours ago











    • Perhaps, in that case, the issue could be with his attitude to the crime for which he is to stand trial. Contempt for the victim(s), or an attitude which shows that he doesn't consider the offence a big deal.

      – Peter Woolley
      2 hours ago
















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    Have you considered racism? May not fit with your story, but maybe some kind of societal objection ... like wrong accent, hair too long, tattoos ... all arbitrary, but could influence someone to be more harsh/unfair.






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    • Thanks @Peter! Yes, racism had occurred to me, and would probably be a fairly good candidate, but I was hoping for something more subtle, and also I was hoping it would be something that the reader would also dislike the character for! (I'll amend the question now to reflect that.)

      – Poul
      3 hours ago











    • Perhaps, in that case, the issue could be with his attitude to the crime for which he is to stand trial. Contempt for the victim(s), or an attitude which shows that he doesn't consider the offence a big deal.

      – Peter Woolley
      2 hours ago














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    Have you considered racism? May not fit with your story, but maybe some kind of societal objection ... like wrong accent, hair too long, tattoos ... all arbitrary, but could influence someone to be more harsh/unfair.






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    Have you considered racism? May not fit with your story, but maybe some kind of societal objection ... like wrong accent, hair too long, tattoos ... all arbitrary, but could influence someone to be more harsh/unfair.







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    • Thanks @Peter! Yes, racism had occurred to me, and would probably be a fairly good candidate, but I was hoping for something more subtle, and also I was hoping it would be something that the reader would also dislike the character for! (I'll amend the question now to reflect that.)

      – Poul
      3 hours ago











    • Perhaps, in that case, the issue could be with his attitude to the crime for which he is to stand trial. Contempt for the victim(s), or an attitude which shows that he doesn't consider the offence a big deal.

      – Peter Woolley
      2 hours ago



















    • Thanks @Peter! Yes, racism had occurred to me, and would probably be a fairly good candidate, but I was hoping for something more subtle, and also I was hoping it would be something that the reader would also dislike the character for! (I'll amend the question now to reflect that.)

      – Poul
      3 hours ago











    • Perhaps, in that case, the issue could be with his attitude to the crime for which he is to stand trial. Contempt for the victim(s), or an attitude which shows that he doesn't consider the offence a big deal.

      – Peter Woolley
      2 hours ago

















    Thanks @Peter! Yes, racism had occurred to me, and would probably be a fairly good candidate, but I was hoping for something more subtle, and also I was hoping it would be something that the reader would also dislike the character for! (I'll amend the question now to reflect that.)

    – Poul
    3 hours ago





    Thanks @Peter! Yes, racism had occurred to me, and would probably be a fairly good candidate, but I was hoping for something more subtle, and also I was hoping it would be something that the reader would also dislike the character for! (I'll amend the question now to reflect that.)

    – Poul
    3 hours ago













    Perhaps, in that case, the issue could be with his attitude to the crime for which he is to stand trial. Contempt for the victim(s), or an attitude which shows that he doesn't consider the offence a big deal.

    – Peter Woolley
    2 hours ago





    Perhaps, in that case, the issue could be with his attitude to the crime for which he is to stand trial. Contempt for the victim(s), or an attitude which shows that he doesn't consider the offence a big deal.

    – Peter Woolley
    2 hours ago











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    In a modern setting, the prosecution may submit something like blogs or emails intended to prove the defendant was involved in some crime or had knowledge of it.



    But the judge, in reading these blogs, finds the defendant's other opinions repellent, even though legal. These could be talking about a callous attitude toward women, for example, or how he insisted his girlfriend have an abortion, or a liberal attitude about drugs or immigrants, or any number of other things allowed as free speech, that grates on the judge.



    In any case by reading the defendant's communications, the judge just doesn't like the defendant as a person or human being, even though the behavior itself does not rise to the level of criminal activity; it is just an "ick" factor for the judge and the reader.






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    • Yes, the callous attitude was exactly the type of thing I was thinking. Plus you've also added a way for the judge to find out this 'irrelevant' information in a plausible way. Thank you!

      – Poul
      2 hours ago











    • @Poul Vote up the answers you like, it doesn't cost you anything.

      – Amadeus
      2 hours ago
















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    In a modern setting, the prosecution may submit something like blogs or emails intended to prove the defendant was involved in some crime or had knowledge of it.



    But the judge, in reading these blogs, finds the defendant's other opinions repellent, even though legal. These could be talking about a callous attitude toward women, for example, or how he insisted his girlfriend have an abortion, or a liberal attitude about drugs or immigrants, or any number of other things allowed as free speech, that grates on the judge.



    In any case by reading the defendant's communications, the judge just doesn't like the defendant as a person or human being, even though the behavior itself does not rise to the level of criminal activity; it is just an "ick" factor for the judge and the reader.






    share|improve this answer
























    • Yes, the callous attitude was exactly the type of thing I was thinking. Plus you've also added a way for the judge to find out this 'irrelevant' information in a plausible way. Thank you!

      – Poul
      2 hours ago











    • @Poul Vote up the answers you like, it doesn't cost you anything.

      – Amadeus
      2 hours ago














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    In a modern setting, the prosecution may submit something like blogs or emails intended to prove the defendant was involved in some crime or had knowledge of it.



    But the judge, in reading these blogs, finds the defendant's other opinions repellent, even though legal. These could be talking about a callous attitude toward women, for example, or how he insisted his girlfriend have an abortion, or a liberal attitude about drugs or immigrants, or any number of other things allowed as free speech, that grates on the judge.



    In any case by reading the defendant's communications, the judge just doesn't like the defendant as a person or human being, even though the behavior itself does not rise to the level of criminal activity; it is just an "ick" factor for the judge and the reader.






    share|improve this answer













    In a modern setting, the prosecution may submit something like blogs or emails intended to prove the defendant was involved in some crime or had knowledge of it.



    But the judge, in reading these blogs, finds the defendant's other opinions repellent, even though legal. These could be talking about a callous attitude toward women, for example, or how he insisted his girlfriend have an abortion, or a liberal attitude about drugs or immigrants, or any number of other things allowed as free speech, that grates on the judge.



    In any case by reading the defendant's communications, the judge just doesn't like the defendant as a person or human being, even though the behavior itself does not rise to the level of criminal activity; it is just an "ick" factor for the judge and the reader.







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    • Yes, the callous attitude was exactly the type of thing I was thinking. Plus you've also added a way for the judge to find out this 'irrelevant' information in a plausible way. Thank you!

      – Poul
      2 hours ago











    • @Poul Vote up the answers you like, it doesn't cost you anything.

      – Amadeus
      2 hours ago



















    • Yes, the callous attitude was exactly the type of thing I was thinking. Plus you've also added a way for the judge to find out this 'irrelevant' information in a plausible way. Thank you!

      – Poul
      2 hours ago











    • @Poul Vote up the answers you like, it doesn't cost you anything.

      – Amadeus
      2 hours ago

















    Yes, the callous attitude was exactly the type of thing I was thinking. Plus you've also added a way for the judge to find out this 'irrelevant' information in a plausible way. Thank you!

    – Poul
    2 hours ago





    Yes, the callous attitude was exactly the type of thing I was thinking. Plus you've also added a way for the judge to find out this 'irrelevant' information in a plausible way. Thank you!

    – Poul
    2 hours ago













    @Poul Vote up the answers you like, it doesn't cost you anything.

    – Amadeus
    2 hours ago





    @Poul Vote up the answers you like, it doesn't cost you anything.

    – Amadeus
    2 hours ago











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    You don't need a valid/justifiable reason to dislike someone.



    Maybe the judge didn't even care.



    Maybe he was just watching porn on his smart phone and decided to reject the appeal, because that's his default answer...



    The point is, it is hard work to explain why the judge dislikes him.. ;)



    All you want to do is to have the guy stay in prison for the wrong reasons, and have the judge be the 'bad' guy...



    So why not just go for it?



    You can throw in whatever you want the readers to not like about him in the story.. And it didn't even matter ...






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      0














      You don't need a valid/justifiable reason to dislike someone.



      Maybe the judge didn't even care.



      Maybe he was just watching porn on his smart phone and decided to reject the appeal, because that's his default answer...



      The point is, it is hard work to explain why the judge dislikes him.. ;)



      All you want to do is to have the guy stay in prison for the wrong reasons, and have the judge be the 'bad' guy...



      So why not just go for it?



      You can throw in whatever you want the readers to not like about him in the story.. And it didn't even matter ...






      share|improve this answer










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        You don't need a valid/justifiable reason to dislike someone.



        Maybe the judge didn't even care.



        Maybe he was just watching porn on his smart phone and decided to reject the appeal, because that's his default answer...



        The point is, it is hard work to explain why the judge dislikes him.. ;)



        All you want to do is to have the guy stay in prison for the wrong reasons, and have the judge be the 'bad' guy...



        So why not just go for it?



        You can throw in whatever you want the readers to not like about him in the story.. And it didn't even matter ...






        share|improve this answer










        New contributor




        ashleylee is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
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        You don't need a valid/justifiable reason to dislike someone.



        Maybe the judge didn't even care.



        Maybe he was just watching porn on his smart phone and decided to reject the appeal, because that's his default answer...



        The point is, it is hard work to explain why the judge dislikes him.. ;)



        All you want to do is to have the guy stay in prison for the wrong reasons, and have the judge be the 'bad' guy...



        So why not just go for it?



        You can throw in whatever you want the readers to not like about him in the story.. And it didn't even matter ...







        share|improve this answer










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