Would it be illegal for the UK to negotiate a trade deal with the EU while still a member?
Would it be illegal for the UK to negotiate a trade deal with the EU while still a member?
Or is it the signing of trade deals that is prohibited?
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Would it be illegal for the UK to negotiate a trade deal with the EU while still a member?
Or is it the signing of trade deals that is prohibited?
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Would it be illegal for the UK to negotiate a trade deal with the EU while still a member?
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Illegal? Probably not. Remember, the initial plan was to invoke article 50, and spend two years on hammering out the withdrawal agreement and the "future relations". A trade deal between the UK and the EU falls under the future relations.
But the EU has made it clear it won't start negotiations about future relations before there is a withdrawal agreement. As of this writing, it's 70 days before the 2 years are up. There is no withdrawal agreement yet. Hence, at this moment, the EU will not negotiate a trade deal.
answered 1 hour ago
AbigailAbigail
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Thank you. So it is the signing of trade deals that is prohibited while a member? Negotiation can occur?
– Ben
1 hour ago
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It's certainly illegal for a EU member to make a trade deal with another country (the EU is, after all, a single market). For a deal with the EU, what you are asking about, it doesn't really matter. The EU is not going to negotiate a trade deal as long as there is not a withdrawal agreement. Negotiating could have occurred if the UK had its act together, knew what it wanted, and had signed a withdrawal agreement a year ago.
– Abigail
1 hour ago
Thank you. On the narrow point of the actual rule: is the signing or the negotiation prohibited?
– Ben
1 hour ago
@Ben I've stated twice that it was the plan to negotiate "future relations" (which involves trade, but is not restricted to trade). What more do you expect? That the EU and the UK were planning to do something which was illegal? (Illegal by what treaty?)
– Abigail
1 hour ago
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The UK could negotiate a trade deal, but other countries aren't really interested in putting resources into a negotiation that will probably take several years anyway at this stage. Until the UK has decided what its future relationship with the EU will be the parameters of any other trade deals are impossible to define, so any talks would be extremely preliminary at best.
It wouldn't be illegal for the UK to do, but it wouldn't be of much use either. The signing of such deals would be problematic at the moment because they would conflict with the treaties that established EU membership.
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Thank you. My question is specifically about negotiating a trade deal with the EU while still a member.
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Illegal? Probably not. Remember, the initial plan was to invoke article 50, and spend two years on hammering out the withdrawal agreement and the "future relations". A trade deal between the UK and the EU falls under the future relations.
But the EU has made it clear it won't start negotiations about future relations before there is a withdrawal agreement. As of this writing, it's 70 days before the 2 years are up. There is no withdrawal agreement yet. Hence, at this moment, the EU will not negotiate a trade deal.
answered 1 hour ago
AbigailAbigail
21416
Thank you. So it is the signing of trade deals that is prohibited while a member? Negotiation can occur?
– Ben
1 hour ago
1
It's certainly illegal for a EU member to make a trade deal with another country (the EU is, after all, a single market). For a deal with the EU, what you are asking about, it doesn't really matter. The EU is not going to negotiate a trade deal as long as there is not a withdrawal agreement. Negotiating could have occurred if the UK had its act together, knew what it wanted, and had signed a withdrawal agreement a year ago.
– Abigail
1 hour ago
Thank you. On the narrow point of the actual rule: is the signing or the negotiation prohibited?
– Ben
1 hour ago
@Ben I've stated twice that it was the plan to negotiate "future relations" (which involves trade, but is not restricted to trade). What more do you expect? That the EU and the UK were planning to do something which was illegal? (Illegal by what treaty?)
– Abigail
1 hour ago
add a comment |
Illegal? Probably not. Remember, the initial plan was to invoke article 50, and spend two years on hammering out the withdrawal agreement and the "future relations". A trade deal between the UK and the EU falls under the future relations.
But the EU has made it clear it won't start negotiations about future relations before there is a withdrawal agreement. As of this writing, it's 70 days before the 2 years are up. There is no withdrawal agreement yet. Hence, at this moment, the EU will not negotiate a trade deal.
answered 1 hour ago
AbigailAbigail
21416
Thank you. So it is the signing of trade deals that is prohibited while a member? Negotiation can occur?
– Ben
1 hour ago
1
It's certainly illegal for a EU member to make a trade deal with another country (the EU is, after all, a single market). For a deal with the EU, what you are asking about, it doesn't really matter. The EU is not going to negotiate a trade deal as long as there is not a withdrawal agreement. Negotiating could have occurred if the UK had its act together, knew what it wanted, and had signed a withdrawal agreement a year ago.
– Abigail
1 hour ago
Thank you. On the narrow point of the actual rule: is the signing or the negotiation prohibited?
– Ben
1 hour ago
@Ben I've stated twice that it was the plan to negotiate "future relations" (which involves trade, but is not restricted to trade). What more do you expect? That the EU and the UK were planning to do something which was illegal? (Illegal by what treaty?)
– Abigail
1 hour ago
add a comment |
Illegal? Probably not. Remember, the initial plan was to invoke article 50, and spend two years on hammering out the withdrawal agreement and the "future relations". A trade deal between the UK and the EU falls under the future relations.
But the EU has made it clear it won't start negotiations about future relations before there is a withdrawal agreement. As of this writing, it's 70 days before the 2 years are up. There is no withdrawal agreement yet. Hence, at this moment, the EU will not negotiate a trade deal.
answered 1 hour ago
AbigailAbigail
21416
Illegal? Probably not. Remember, the initial plan was to invoke article 50, and spend two years on hammering out the withdrawal agreement and the "future relations". A trade deal between the UK and the EU falls under the future relations.
But the EU has made it clear it won't start negotiations about future relations before there is a withdrawal agreement. As of this writing, it's 70 days before the 2 years are up. There is no withdrawal agreement yet. Hence, at this moment, the EU will not negotiate a trade deal.
answered 1 hour ago
AbigailAbigail
21416
answered 1 hour ago
AbigailAbigail
21416
answered 1 hour ago
AbigailAbigail
21416
answered 1 hour ago
AbigailAbigail
21416
21416
Thank you. So it is the signing of trade deals that is prohibited while a member? Negotiation can occur?
– Ben
1 hour ago
1
It's certainly illegal for a EU member to make a trade deal with another country (the EU is, after all, a single market). For a deal with the EU, what you are asking about, it doesn't really matter. The EU is not going to negotiate a trade deal as long as there is not a withdrawal agreement. Negotiating could have occurred if the UK had its act together, knew what it wanted, and had signed a withdrawal agreement a year ago.
– Abigail
1 hour ago
Thank you. On the narrow point of the actual rule: is the signing or the negotiation prohibited?
– Ben
1 hour ago
@Ben I've stated twice that it was the plan to negotiate "future relations" (which involves trade, but is not restricted to trade). What more do you expect? That the EU and the UK were planning to do something which was illegal? (Illegal by what treaty?)
– Abigail
1 hour ago
add a comment |
Thank you. So it is the signing of trade deals that is prohibited while a member? Negotiation can occur?
– Ben
1 hour ago
1
It's certainly illegal for a EU member to make a trade deal with another country (the EU is, after all, a single market). For a deal with the EU, what you are asking about, it doesn't really matter. The EU is not going to negotiate a trade deal as long as there is not a withdrawal agreement. Negotiating could have occurred if the UK had its act together, knew what it wanted, and had signed a withdrawal agreement a year ago.
– Abigail
1 hour ago
Thank you. On the narrow point of the actual rule: is the signing or the negotiation prohibited?
– Ben
1 hour ago
@Ben I've stated twice that it was the plan to negotiate "future relations" (which involves trade, but is not restricted to trade). What more do you expect? That the EU and the UK were planning to do something which was illegal? (Illegal by what treaty?)
– Abigail
1 hour ago
Thank you. So it is the signing of trade deals that is prohibited while a member? Negotiation can occur?
– Ben
1 hour ago
Thank you. So it is the signing of trade deals that is prohibited while a member? Negotiation can occur?
– Ben
1 hour ago
1
1
It's certainly illegal for a EU member to make a trade deal with another country (the EU is, after all, a single market). For a deal with the EU, what you are asking about, it doesn't really matter. The EU is not going to negotiate a trade deal as long as there is not a withdrawal agreement. Negotiating could have occurred if the UK had its act together, knew what it wanted, and had signed a withdrawal agreement a year ago.
– Abigail
1 hour ago
It's certainly illegal for a EU member to make a trade deal with another country (the EU is, after all, a single market). For a deal with the EU, what you are asking about, it doesn't really matter. The EU is not going to negotiate a trade deal as long as there is not a withdrawal agreement. Negotiating could have occurred if the UK had its act together, knew what it wanted, and had signed a withdrawal agreement a year ago.
– Abigail
1 hour ago
Thank you. On the narrow point of the actual rule: is the signing or the negotiation prohibited?
– Ben
1 hour ago
Thank you. On the narrow point of the actual rule: is the signing or the negotiation prohibited?
– Ben
1 hour ago
@Ben I've stated twice that it was the plan to negotiate "future relations" (which involves trade, but is not restricted to trade). What more do you expect? That the EU and the UK were planning to do something which was illegal? (Illegal by what treaty?)
– Abigail
1 hour ago
@Ben I've stated twice that it was the plan to negotiate "future relations" (which involves trade, but is not restricted to trade). What more do you expect? That the EU and the UK were planning to do something which was illegal? (Illegal by what treaty?)
– Abigail
1 hour ago
add a comment |
The UK could negotiate a trade deal, but other countries aren't really interested in putting resources into a negotiation that will probably take several years anyway at this stage. Until the UK has decided what its future relationship with the EU will be the parameters of any other trade deals are impossible to define, so any talks would be extremely preliminary at best.
It wouldn't be illegal for the UK to do, but it wouldn't be of much use either. The signing of such deals would be problematic at the moment because they would conflict with the treaties that established EU membership.
answered 2 hours ago
useruser
7,07221431
Thank you. My question is specifically about negotiating a trade deal with the EU while still a member.
– Ben
2 hours ago
add a comment |
The UK could negotiate a trade deal, but other countries aren't really interested in putting resources into a negotiation that will probably take several years anyway at this stage. Until the UK has decided what its future relationship with the EU will be the parameters of any other trade deals are impossible to define, so any talks would be extremely preliminary at best.
It wouldn't be illegal for the UK to do, but it wouldn't be of much use either. The signing of such deals would be problematic at the moment because they would conflict with the treaties that established EU membership.
answered 2 hours ago
useruser
7,07221431
Thank you. My question is specifically about negotiating a trade deal with the EU while still a member.
– Ben
2 hours ago
add a comment |
The UK could negotiate a trade deal, but other countries aren't really interested in putting resources into a negotiation that will probably take several years anyway at this stage. Until the UK has decided what its future relationship with the EU will be the parameters of any other trade deals are impossible to define, so any talks would be extremely preliminary at best.
It wouldn't be illegal for the UK to do, but it wouldn't be of much use either. The signing of such deals would be problematic at the moment because they would conflict with the treaties that established EU membership.
answered 2 hours ago
useruser
7,07221431
The UK could negotiate a trade deal, but other countries aren't really interested in putting resources into a negotiation that will probably take several years anyway at this stage. Until the UK has decided what its future relationship with the EU will be the parameters of any other trade deals are impossible to define, so any talks would be extremely preliminary at best.
It wouldn't be illegal for the UK to do, but it wouldn't be of much use either. The signing of such deals would be problematic at the moment because they would conflict with the treaties that established EU membership.
answered 2 hours ago
useruser
7,07221431
answered 2 hours ago
useruser
7,07221431
answered 2 hours ago
useruser
7,07221431
answered 2 hours ago
useruser
7,07221431
7,07221431
Thank you. My question is specifically about negotiating a trade deal with the EU while still a member.
– Ben
2 hours ago
add a comment |
Thank you. My question is specifically about negotiating a trade deal with the EU while still a member.
– Ben
2 hours ago
Thank you. My question is specifically about negotiating a trade deal with the EU while still a member.
– Ben
2 hours ago
Thank you. My question is specifically about negotiating a trade deal with the EU while still a member.
– Ben
2 hours ago
add a comment |
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