Did Neomi Rao support dwarf-tossing?
A recent article about Neomi Rao's nomination to replace Brett Kavanaugh on the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals claims that Rao has a record of defending dwarf-tossing.
Conservatives are discouraging talk of Rao as a future justice, recognizing that it will only draw more scrutiny of her record, which has recently been criticized over controversial positions like her defense of dwarf-tossing and past skepticism of date rape claims.
Does Neomi Rao have a record of defending dwarf-tossing? Also, how did that end up in court?
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A recent article about Neomi Rao's nomination to replace Brett Kavanaugh on the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals claims that Rao has a record of defending dwarf-tossing.
Conservatives are discouraging talk of Rao as a future justice, recognizing that it will only draw more scrutiny of her record, which has recently been criticized over controversial positions like her defense of dwarf-tossing and past skepticism of date rape claims.
Does Neomi Rao have a record of defending dwarf-tossing? Also, how did that end up in court?
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FYI, the Washington Post article linked in the article you linked to provides the info you want. washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/magazine/…
– UnhandledExcepSean
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@UnhandledExcepSean, I haven't read WP much since they enacted their paywall.
– elliot svensson
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No tag wiki for dwarf tossing? Are you expecting pixies to create the wiki for you?
– Andrew Grimm
2 hours ago
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I'm not impressed that much research went into this question. They provided a link, and many newspapers have this story.
– Oddthinking♦
2 hours ago
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@elliotsvensson: You didn't even follow the link provided, and quote from that. We shouldn't allow ourselves to turn into a "Could someone bypass this paywall for me, please?" site. (I don't see this as extraordinary, but that's opinion.)
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A recent article about Neomi Rao's nomination to replace Brett Kavanaugh on the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals claims that Rao has a record of defending dwarf-tossing.
Conservatives are discouraging talk of Rao as a future justice, recognizing that it will only draw more scrutiny of her record, which has recently been criticized over controversial positions like her defense of dwarf-tossing and past skepticism of date rape claims.
Does Neomi Rao have a record of defending dwarf-tossing? Also, how did that end up in court?
united-states dwarf-tossing
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A recent article about Neomi Rao's nomination to replace Brett Kavanaugh on the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals claims that Rao has a record of defending dwarf-tossing.
Conservatives are discouraging talk of Rao as a future justice, recognizing that it will only draw more scrutiny of her record, which has recently been criticized over controversial positions like her defense of dwarf-tossing and past skepticism of date rape claims.
Does Neomi Rao have a record of defending dwarf-tossing? Also, how did that end up in court?
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FYI, the Washington Post article linked in the article you linked to provides the info you want. washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/magazine/…
– UnhandledExcepSean
5 hours ago
@UnhandledExcepSean, I haven't read WP much since they enacted their paywall.
– elliot svensson
5 hours ago
2
No tag wiki for dwarf tossing? Are you expecting pixies to create the wiki for you?
– Andrew Grimm
2 hours ago
1
I'm not impressed that much research went into this question. They provided a link, and many newspapers have this story.
– Oddthinking♦
2 hours ago
4
@elliotsvensson: You didn't even follow the link provided, and quote from that. We shouldn't allow ourselves to turn into a "Could someone bypass this paywall for me, please?" site. (I don't see this as extraordinary, but that's opinion.)
– Oddthinking♦
1 hour ago
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FYI, the Washington Post article linked in the article you linked to provides the info you want. washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/magazine/…
– UnhandledExcepSean
5 hours ago
@UnhandledExcepSean, I haven't read WP much since they enacted their paywall.
– elliot svensson
5 hours ago
2
No tag wiki for dwarf tossing? Are you expecting pixies to create the wiki for you?
– Andrew Grimm
2 hours ago
1
I'm not impressed that much research went into this question. They provided a link, and many newspapers have this story.
– Oddthinking♦
2 hours ago
4
@elliotsvensson: You didn't even follow the link provided, and quote from that. We shouldn't allow ourselves to turn into a "Could someone bypass this paywall for me, please?" site. (I don't see this as extraordinary, but that's opinion.)
– Oddthinking♦
1 hour ago
FYI, the Washington Post article linked in the article you linked to provides the info you want. washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/magazine/…
– UnhandledExcepSean
5 hours ago
FYI, the Washington Post article linked in the article you linked to provides the info you want. washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/magazine/…
– UnhandledExcepSean
5 hours ago
@UnhandledExcepSean, I haven't read WP much since they enacted their paywall.
– elliot svensson
5 hours ago
@UnhandledExcepSean, I haven't read WP much since they enacted their paywall.
– elliot svensson
5 hours ago
2
2
No tag wiki for dwarf tossing? Are you expecting pixies to create the wiki for you?
– Andrew Grimm
2 hours ago
No tag wiki for dwarf tossing? Are you expecting pixies to create the wiki for you?
– Andrew Grimm
2 hours ago
1
1
I'm not impressed that much research went into this question. They provided a link, and many newspapers have this story.
– Oddthinking♦
2 hours ago
I'm not impressed that much research went into this question. They provided a link, and many newspapers have this story.
– Oddthinking♦
2 hours ago
4
4
@elliotsvensson: You didn't even follow the link provided, and quote from that. We shouldn't allow ourselves to turn into a "Could someone bypass this paywall for me, please?" site. (I don't see this as extraordinary, but that's opinion.)
– Oddthinking♦
1 hour ago
@elliotsvensson: You didn't even follow the link provided, and quote from that. We shouldn't allow ourselves to turn into a "Could someone bypass this paywall for me, please?" site. (I don't see this as extraordinary, but that's opinion.)
– Oddthinking♦
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Rao wrote the blog article Substantive Dignity-Dwarf-throwing, Burqa Bans, and Welfare Rights as well as more-formal articles cited therein:
In a much-discussed French case, Mr. Wackenheim, a dwarf, made his living by allowing himself to be thrown for sport. The mayors of several cities banned dwarf tossing events. Mr. Wackenheim challenged the orders on the grounds that they interfered with his economic liberty and right to earn a living. The case went to the Conseil d’Etat (the supreme administrative court), which upheld the bans on the grounds that dwarf throwing affronted human dignity, which was part of the “public order” controlled by the municipal police. The Wackenheim case demonstrates how a substantive understanding of dignity can be used to coerce individuals by forcing upon them a particular understanding of dignity irrespective of their individual choices.
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The issue is not whether laws prohibiting dwarf throwing, burqa wearing, prostitution, or pornography may be desirable social policy. Rather these examples demonstrate that the conception of dignity used to defend such policies is not that of human agency and freedom of choice, but rather represents a particular moral view of what dignity requires. These laws do not purport to maximize individual freedom, but instead regulate how individuals must behave in order to maintain dignity (and in the case of criminal prohibitions, stay out of jail).
For the related academic article see Three Concepts of Dignity in Constitutional Law Notre Dame Law Review volume 86, pages 183-271, particularly the "Dwarf Throwing" section on pages 226-227.
So in conclusion, she supports allowing dwarfs who want to be thrown, to be thrown, as opposed to outlawing the practice.
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TL;DR no, he doesn't support it. You should add it to your answer.
– JonathanReez
2 hours ago
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I think it is worth clarifying the difference between "supporting dwarf-tossing" (as the title of the question claims) and "rejecting laws which ban activities based only on moral views of dignity, such as anti-dwarf-tossing laws". (e.g. I do not support people using the word "learnings" where they mean the word "lessons" - it is undignified - but I reject any proposed laws against it.)
– Oddthinking♦
1 hour ago
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@JonathanReez she supports allowing dwarfs who want to be thrown to be thrown.
– DavePhD
1 hour ago
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She supports freedom, even if that includes allowing dwarf throwing. Whether or not she personally supports the practice is unknown.
– JonathanReez
1 hour ago
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@HopelessN00b by default the answer should be "no, she does not support it". If there's a clear quote from the judge on this subject, then it could become a "yes".
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Rao wrote the blog article Substantive Dignity-Dwarf-throwing, Burqa Bans, and Welfare Rights as well as more-formal articles cited therein:
In a much-discussed French case, Mr. Wackenheim, a dwarf, made his living by allowing himself to be thrown for sport. The mayors of several cities banned dwarf tossing events. Mr. Wackenheim challenged the orders on the grounds that they interfered with his economic liberty and right to earn a living. The case went to the Conseil d’Etat (the supreme administrative court), which upheld the bans on the grounds that dwarf throwing affronted human dignity, which was part of the “public order” controlled by the municipal police. The Wackenheim case demonstrates how a substantive understanding of dignity can be used to coerce individuals by forcing upon them a particular understanding of dignity irrespective of their individual choices.
...
The issue is not whether laws prohibiting dwarf throwing, burqa wearing, prostitution, or pornography may be desirable social policy. Rather these examples demonstrate that the conception of dignity used to defend such policies is not that of human agency and freedom of choice, but rather represents a particular moral view of what dignity requires. These laws do not purport to maximize individual freedom, but instead regulate how individuals must behave in order to maintain dignity (and in the case of criminal prohibitions, stay out of jail).
For the related academic article see Three Concepts of Dignity in Constitutional Law Notre Dame Law Review volume 86, pages 183-271, particularly the "Dwarf Throwing" section on pages 226-227.
So in conclusion, she supports allowing dwarfs who want to be thrown, to be thrown, as opposed to outlawing the practice.
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DavePhDDavePhD
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TL;DR no, he doesn't support it. You should add it to your answer.
– JonathanReez
2 hours ago
7
I think it is worth clarifying the difference between "supporting dwarf-tossing" (as the title of the question claims) and "rejecting laws which ban activities based only on moral views of dignity, such as anti-dwarf-tossing laws". (e.g. I do not support people using the word "learnings" where they mean the word "lessons" - it is undignified - but I reject any proposed laws against it.)
– Oddthinking♦
1 hour ago
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@JonathanReez she supports allowing dwarfs who want to be thrown to be thrown.
– DavePhD
1 hour ago
1
She supports freedom, even if that includes allowing dwarf throwing. Whether or not she personally supports the practice is unknown.
– JonathanReez
1 hour ago
1
@HopelessN00b by default the answer should be "no, she does not support it". If there's a clear quote from the judge on this subject, then it could become a "yes".
– JonathanReez
1 hour ago
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show 1 more comment
Rao wrote the blog article Substantive Dignity-Dwarf-throwing, Burqa Bans, and Welfare Rights as well as more-formal articles cited therein:
In a much-discussed French case, Mr. Wackenheim, a dwarf, made his living by allowing himself to be thrown for sport. The mayors of several cities banned dwarf tossing events. Mr. Wackenheim challenged the orders on the grounds that they interfered with his economic liberty and right to earn a living. The case went to the Conseil d’Etat (the supreme administrative court), which upheld the bans on the grounds that dwarf throwing affronted human dignity, which was part of the “public order” controlled by the municipal police. The Wackenheim case demonstrates how a substantive understanding of dignity can be used to coerce individuals by forcing upon them a particular understanding of dignity irrespective of their individual choices.
...
The issue is not whether laws prohibiting dwarf throwing, burqa wearing, prostitution, or pornography may be desirable social policy. Rather these examples demonstrate that the conception of dignity used to defend such policies is not that of human agency and freedom of choice, but rather represents a particular moral view of what dignity requires. These laws do not purport to maximize individual freedom, but instead regulate how individuals must behave in order to maintain dignity (and in the case of criminal prohibitions, stay out of jail).
For the related academic article see Three Concepts of Dignity in Constitutional Law Notre Dame Law Review volume 86, pages 183-271, particularly the "Dwarf Throwing" section on pages 226-227.
So in conclusion, she supports allowing dwarfs who want to be thrown, to be thrown, as opposed to outlawing the practice.
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elliot svensson
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answered 5 hours ago
DavePhDDavePhD
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TL;DR no, he doesn't support it. You should add it to your answer.
– JonathanReez
2 hours ago
7
I think it is worth clarifying the difference between "supporting dwarf-tossing" (as the title of the question claims) and "rejecting laws which ban activities based only on moral views of dignity, such as anti-dwarf-tossing laws". (e.g. I do not support people using the word "learnings" where they mean the word "lessons" - it is undignified - but I reject any proposed laws against it.)
– Oddthinking♦
1 hour ago
2
@JonathanReez she supports allowing dwarfs who want to be thrown to be thrown.
– DavePhD
1 hour ago
1
She supports freedom, even if that includes allowing dwarf throwing. Whether or not she personally supports the practice is unknown.
– JonathanReez
1 hour ago
1
@HopelessN00b by default the answer should be "no, she does not support it". If there's a clear quote from the judge on this subject, then it could become a "yes".
– JonathanReez
1 hour ago
|
show 1 more comment
Rao wrote the blog article Substantive Dignity-Dwarf-throwing, Burqa Bans, and Welfare Rights as well as more-formal articles cited therein:
In a much-discussed French case, Mr. Wackenheim, a dwarf, made his living by allowing himself to be thrown for sport. The mayors of several cities banned dwarf tossing events. Mr. Wackenheim challenged the orders on the grounds that they interfered with his economic liberty and right to earn a living. The case went to the Conseil d’Etat (the supreme administrative court), which upheld the bans on the grounds that dwarf throwing affronted human dignity, which was part of the “public order” controlled by the municipal police. The Wackenheim case demonstrates how a substantive understanding of dignity can be used to coerce individuals by forcing upon them a particular understanding of dignity irrespective of their individual choices.
...
The issue is not whether laws prohibiting dwarf throwing, burqa wearing, prostitution, or pornography may be desirable social policy. Rather these examples demonstrate that the conception of dignity used to defend such policies is not that of human agency and freedom of choice, but rather represents a particular moral view of what dignity requires. These laws do not purport to maximize individual freedom, but instead regulate how individuals must behave in order to maintain dignity (and in the case of criminal prohibitions, stay out of jail).
For the related academic article see Three Concepts of Dignity in Constitutional Law Notre Dame Law Review volume 86, pages 183-271, particularly the "Dwarf Throwing" section on pages 226-227.
So in conclusion, she supports allowing dwarfs who want to be thrown, to be thrown, as opposed to outlawing the practice.
edited 55 mins ago
elliot svensson
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answered 5 hours ago
DavePhDDavePhD
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Rao wrote the blog article Substantive Dignity-Dwarf-throwing, Burqa Bans, and Welfare Rights as well as more-formal articles cited therein:
In a much-discussed French case, Mr. Wackenheim, a dwarf, made his living by allowing himself to be thrown for sport. The mayors of several cities banned dwarf tossing events. Mr. Wackenheim challenged the orders on the grounds that they interfered with his economic liberty and right to earn a living. The case went to the Conseil d’Etat (the supreme administrative court), which upheld the bans on the grounds that dwarf throwing affronted human dignity, which was part of the “public order” controlled by the municipal police. The Wackenheim case demonstrates how a substantive understanding of dignity can be used to coerce individuals by forcing upon them a particular understanding of dignity irrespective of their individual choices.
...
The issue is not whether laws prohibiting dwarf throwing, burqa wearing, prostitution, or pornography may be desirable social policy. Rather these examples demonstrate that the conception of dignity used to defend such policies is not that of human agency and freedom of choice, but rather represents a particular moral view of what dignity requires. These laws do not purport to maximize individual freedom, but instead regulate how individuals must behave in order to maintain dignity (and in the case of criminal prohibitions, stay out of jail).
For the related academic article see Three Concepts of Dignity in Constitutional Law Notre Dame Law Review volume 86, pages 183-271, particularly the "Dwarf Throwing" section on pages 226-227.
So in conclusion, she supports allowing dwarfs who want to be thrown, to be thrown, as opposed to outlawing the practice.
edited 55 mins ago
elliot svensson
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answered 5 hours ago
DavePhDDavePhD
77.4k19327356
edited 55 mins ago
elliot svensson
2,131533
edited 55 mins ago
elliot svensson
2,131533
edited 55 mins ago
elliot svensson
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2,131533
answered 5 hours ago
DavePhDDavePhD
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answered 5 hours ago
DavePhDDavePhD
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answered 5 hours ago
DavePhDDavePhD
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TL;DR no, he doesn't support it. You should add it to your answer.
– JonathanReez
2 hours ago
7
I think it is worth clarifying the difference between "supporting dwarf-tossing" (as the title of the question claims) and "rejecting laws which ban activities based only on moral views of dignity, such as anti-dwarf-tossing laws". (e.g. I do not support people using the word "learnings" where they mean the word "lessons" - it is undignified - but I reject any proposed laws against it.)
– Oddthinking♦
1 hour ago
2
@JonathanReez she supports allowing dwarfs who want to be thrown to be thrown.
– DavePhD
1 hour ago
1
She supports freedom, even if that includes allowing dwarf throwing. Whether or not she personally supports the practice is unknown.
– JonathanReez
1 hour ago
1
@HopelessN00b by default the answer should be "no, she does not support it". If there's a clear quote from the judge on this subject, then it could become a "yes".
– JonathanReez
1 hour ago
|
show 1 more comment
1
TL;DR no, he doesn't support it. You should add it to your answer.
– JonathanReez
2 hours ago
7
I think it is worth clarifying the difference between "supporting dwarf-tossing" (as the title of the question claims) and "rejecting laws which ban activities based only on moral views of dignity, such as anti-dwarf-tossing laws". (e.g. I do not support people using the word "learnings" where they mean the word "lessons" - it is undignified - but I reject any proposed laws against it.)
– Oddthinking♦
1 hour ago
2
@JonathanReez she supports allowing dwarfs who want to be thrown to be thrown.
– DavePhD
1 hour ago
1
She supports freedom, even if that includes allowing dwarf throwing. Whether or not she personally supports the practice is unknown.
– JonathanReez
1 hour ago
1
@HopelessN00b by default the answer should be "no, she does not support it". If there's a clear quote from the judge on this subject, then it could become a "yes".
– JonathanReez
1 hour ago
1
1
TL;DR no, he doesn't support it. You should add it to your answer.
– JonathanReez
2 hours ago
TL;DR no, he doesn't support it. You should add it to your answer.
– JonathanReez
2 hours ago
7
7
I think it is worth clarifying the difference between "supporting dwarf-tossing" (as the title of the question claims) and "rejecting laws which ban activities based only on moral views of dignity, such as anti-dwarf-tossing laws". (e.g. I do not support people using the word "learnings" where they mean the word "lessons" - it is undignified - but I reject any proposed laws against it.)
– Oddthinking♦
1 hour ago
I think it is worth clarifying the difference between "supporting dwarf-tossing" (as the title of the question claims) and "rejecting laws which ban activities based only on moral views of dignity, such as anti-dwarf-tossing laws". (e.g. I do not support people using the word "learnings" where they mean the word "lessons" - it is undignified - but I reject any proposed laws against it.)
– Oddthinking♦
1 hour ago
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@JonathanReez she supports allowing dwarfs who want to be thrown to be thrown.
– DavePhD
1 hour ago
@JonathanReez she supports allowing dwarfs who want to be thrown to be thrown.
– DavePhD
1 hour ago
1
1
She supports freedom, even if that includes allowing dwarf throwing. Whether or not she personally supports the practice is unknown.
– JonathanReez
1 hour ago
She supports freedom, even if that includes allowing dwarf throwing. Whether or not she personally supports the practice is unknown.
– JonathanReez
1 hour ago
1
1
@HopelessN00b by default the answer should be "no, she does not support it". If there's a clear quote from the judge on this subject, then it could become a "yes".
– JonathanReez
1 hour ago
@HopelessN00b by default the answer should be "no, she does not support it". If there's a clear quote from the judge on this subject, then it could become a "yes".
– JonathanReez
1 hour ago
|
show 1 more comment
FYI, the Washington Post article linked in the article you linked to provides the info you want. washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/magazine/…
– UnhandledExcepSean
5 hours ago
@UnhandledExcepSean, I haven't read WP much since they enacted their paywall.
– elliot svensson
5 hours ago
2
No tag wiki for dwarf tossing? Are you expecting pixies to create the wiki for you?
– Andrew Grimm
2 hours ago
1
I'm not impressed that much research went into this question. They provided a link, and many newspapers have this story.
– Oddthinking♦
2 hours ago
4
@elliotsvensson: You didn't even follow the link provided, and quote from that. We shouldn't allow ourselves to turn into a "Could someone bypass this paywall for me, please?" site. (I don't see this as extraordinary, but that's opinion.)
– Oddthinking♦
1 hour ago