Etiquette question: is there such a thing as accepting an offer 'too early'?












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TLDR: Got a PhD offer at top choice, all details checked out, and I want to accept now (much earlier than the April 15th deadline).



A colleague (at the professor level) I mentioned this to said I should wait as it could look 'too earnest' accepting roughly 10 days after notification.



Is there any truth to this claim? I.e. does it 'look bad' (i.e. desperate) if I accept now? I'm just genuinely excited and am ready to lock it in.



Additional details (from comments):




  • This offer is a 'hard' offer such that it is from the department, many cc'd people, and is in writing


  • I have other 'hard' offers from other universities and have yet to hear back from a few more



Other relevant questions:




  • Responding to a prof's email about acceptance in a PhD program










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    TLDR: Got a PhD offer at top choice, all details checked out, and I want to accept now (much earlier than the April 15th deadline).



    A colleague (at the professor level) I mentioned this to said I should wait as it could look 'too earnest' accepting roughly 10 days after notification.



    Is there any truth to this claim? I.e. does it 'look bad' (i.e. desperate) if I accept now? I'm just genuinely excited and am ready to lock it in.



    Additional details (from comments):




    • This offer is a 'hard' offer such that it is from the department, many cc'd people, and is in writing


    • I have other 'hard' offers from other universities and have yet to hear back from a few more



    Other relevant questions:




    • Responding to a prof's email about acceptance in a PhD program










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      TLDR: Got a PhD offer at top choice, all details checked out, and I want to accept now (much earlier than the April 15th deadline).



      A colleague (at the professor level) I mentioned this to said I should wait as it could look 'too earnest' accepting roughly 10 days after notification.



      Is there any truth to this claim? I.e. does it 'look bad' (i.e. desperate) if I accept now? I'm just genuinely excited and am ready to lock it in.



      Additional details (from comments):




      • This offer is a 'hard' offer such that it is from the department, many cc'd people, and is in writing


      • I have other 'hard' offers from other universities and have yet to hear back from a few more



      Other relevant questions:




      • Responding to a prof's email about acceptance in a PhD program










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      TLDR: Got a PhD offer at top choice, all details checked out, and I want to accept now (much earlier than the April 15th deadline).



      A colleague (at the professor level) I mentioned this to said I should wait as it could look 'too earnest' accepting roughly 10 days after notification.



      Is there any truth to this claim? I.e. does it 'look bad' (i.e. desperate) if I accept now? I'm just genuinely excited and am ready to lock it in.



      Additional details (from comments):




      • This offer is a 'hard' offer such that it is from the department, many cc'd people, and is in writing


      • I have other 'hard' offers from other universities and have yet to hear back from a few more



      Other relevant questions:




      • Responding to a prof's email about acceptance in a PhD program







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          Actually, it is simple courtesy to accept as soon as you know you will do so. This helps the institution deal with its obligations to you and others. It isn't a game you play for "advantage". You hope to develop a long term relationship with this institution. Treat them with respect and expect them to reciprocate.



          Don't accept before you are ready, such as when other offers might come in, but don't delay for any perceived "strategic" reason.






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            Buffy to my rescue again! I think this clearly articulates my reasoning as I am resolute in what I want to do (i.e. accept).

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          I doubt they will care much either way if you accept early or at the last minute. Appearing eager is not a bad thing. You should be excited to start a PhD.



          It is courteous and prudent not to delay if your decision has really already been made. It means they and you can move forward with the process of registering as a student. It also means they can say no to waitlisted candidates.



          However, if your decision is not certain yet, then don’t make it earlier than necessary. For example, you haven’t seen all the other options yet. And you haven’t visited. These could change your mind. So I would wait until you have a clearer picture.






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            A few questions to consider:




            • Do you have a binding contract signed off by them you just need to sign and send back? Or any other legally binding offer?

              Until you have that you need to be in a hurry (to get it, not to sign)

            • Is there any advantage of waiting? Negotiations? A better offer from somewhere else you would be waiting for?

              If the answer is "no" you do not gain anything at waiting and your mind will be at peace once all the paperwork is over.






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            I would take your colleagues advice - but not for the reason he cited.



            Waiting a few days allows the excitement to die down and stops you from making rash decisions. Perhaps there is some catch in the agreement that you glazed over because you were too interested in the good parts.



            You've also mentioned that other offers are coming in - waiting allows you to consider all of them properly. There might be a gem among them that you notice too late (if at all). It would be unfortunate to accept this offer moments before a better one arrives in the mail.



            So I recommend waiting at least a couple of days just to cool down and consider your future carefully. If you have already done this, then I see no reason not to go ahead. As other answers have said, you want to build a positive relationship with these people and being prompt is a good way to start.






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              I think your advisor has the right instincts here. Any time you are in this sort of position (schools, job search, etc.) it makes more sense to wait. It can only be to your benefit. Also, school A may decide to up their offer, give you a visit, etc.



              It's not so much that anything bad will come of your accepting early. It won't make you look bad or too eager. But you are just not using the situation to max advantage.



              P.s. I think it's a good question. Should not be closed.






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              • As a follow-up to this - do you have any recommendations as to whether I should communicate to the PI I am in contact with the offering university? E.g. is it worthwhile for me to communicate with that Prof that I intend to accept? My key worry is that I can open up my spots at other universities/university-associated-fellowships (as I've read and understood this selection process can be quite resource-intensive).

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              • Continue to communicate to this guy and deepen the relationship but don't make a commitment. Don't worry about the slots at other schools. They are running a bulk process and have people who decline/accept/don't show up out of the pool all the time. They will take care of themselves (e.g. letting in a few weaker candidates late if they need to). Be respectful but at the same time it is not your responsibility to optimize for them. Schools ding people all the time and get dinged all the time. Believe me they have a lot less at risk (from portfolio impact) than you do in the single commit.

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                This is a poor answer - this is an offer for admission for grad school, not a job offer. Trying to stretch out for a better negotiation position is going to make you look bad, not good. I also find it a bit offensive to think of the admissions process for PhDs as a "bulk process": there might be some bulk filtering early on in the process, but at the time of accepting students it is in my experience quite personal and individualized. At a top school, it's less about "letting in a few weaker candidates" and more about "extending offers to other well-qualified options."

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                8 hours ago






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                Disagree. Committees routinely get many decisions towards the end. Perhaps even the bulk of them. There are very few times you have this level of control, freedom. Take advantage. Oh...and from personal perspective 2 of 6 of my accepts sent fellowships (few extra thousand bucks but makes a big difference when you are so poor) AFTER the initial accept letter and before decision time. [And you don't need to let them know why you are waiting.]

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              Actually, it is simple courtesy to accept as soon as you know you will do so. This helps the institution deal with its obligations to you and others. It isn't a game you play for "advantage". You hope to develop a long term relationship with this institution. Treat them with respect and expect them to reciprocate.



              Don't accept before you are ready, such as when other offers might come in, but don't delay for any perceived "strategic" reason.






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              Actually, it is simple courtesy to accept as soon as you know you will do so. This helps the institution deal with its obligations to you and others. It isn't a game you play for "advantage". You hope to develop a long term relationship with this institution. Treat them with respect and expect them to reciprocate.



              Don't accept before you are ready, such as when other offers might come in, but don't delay for any perceived "strategic" reason.






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              Actually, it is simple courtesy to accept as soon as you know you will do so. This helps the institution deal with its obligations to you and others. It isn't a game you play for "advantage". You hope to develop a long term relationship with this institution. Treat them with respect and expect them to reciprocate.



              Don't accept before you are ready, such as when other offers might come in, but don't delay for any perceived "strategic" reason.






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              Actually, it is simple courtesy to accept as soon as you know you will do so. This helps the institution deal with its obligations to you and others. It isn't a game you play for "advantage". You hope to develop a long term relationship with this institution. Treat them with respect and expect them to reciprocate.



              Don't accept before you are ready, such as when other offers might come in, but don't delay for any perceived "strategic" reason.







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                Buffy to my rescue again! I think this clearly articulates my reasoning as I am resolute in what I want to do (i.e. accept).

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                Buffy to my rescue again! I think this clearly articulates my reasoning as I am resolute in what I want to do (i.e. accept).

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              Buffy to my rescue again! I think this clearly articulates my reasoning as I am resolute in what I want to do (i.e. accept).

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              Buffy to my rescue again! I think this clearly articulates my reasoning as I am resolute in what I want to do (i.e. accept).

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              I doubt they will care much either way if you accept early or at the last minute. Appearing eager is not a bad thing. You should be excited to start a PhD.



              It is courteous and prudent not to delay if your decision has really already been made. It means they and you can move forward with the process of registering as a student. It also means they can say no to waitlisted candidates.



              However, if your decision is not certain yet, then don’t make it earlier than necessary. For example, you haven’t seen all the other options yet. And you haven’t visited. These could change your mind. So I would wait until you have a clearer picture.






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                I doubt they will care much either way if you accept early or at the last minute. Appearing eager is not a bad thing. You should be excited to start a PhD.



                It is courteous and prudent not to delay if your decision has really already been made. It means they and you can move forward with the process of registering as a student. It also means they can say no to waitlisted candidates.



                However, if your decision is not certain yet, then don’t make it earlier than necessary. For example, you haven’t seen all the other options yet. And you haven’t visited. These could change your mind. So I would wait until you have a clearer picture.






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                  I doubt they will care much either way if you accept early or at the last minute. Appearing eager is not a bad thing. You should be excited to start a PhD.



                  It is courteous and prudent not to delay if your decision has really already been made. It means they and you can move forward with the process of registering as a student. It also means they can say no to waitlisted candidates.



                  However, if your decision is not certain yet, then don’t make it earlier than necessary. For example, you haven’t seen all the other options yet. And you haven’t visited. These could change your mind. So I would wait until you have a clearer picture.






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                  I doubt they will care much either way if you accept early or at the last minute. Appearing eager is not a bad thing. You should be excited to start a PhD.



                  It is courteous and prudent not to delay if your decision has really already been made. It means they and you can move forward with the process of registering as a student. It also means they can say no to waitlisted candidates.



                  However, if your decision is not certain yet, then don’t make it earlier than necessary. For example, you haven’t seen all the other options yet. And you haven’t visited. These could change your mind. So I would wait until you have a clearer picture.







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                      A few questions to consider:




                      • Do you have a binding contract signed off by them you just need to sign and send back? Or any other legally binding offer?

                        Until you have that you need to be in a hurry (to get it, not to sign)

                      • Is there any advantage of waiting? Negotiations? A better offer from somewhere else you would be waiting for?

                        If the answer is "no" you do not gain anything at waiting and your mind will be at peace once all the paperwork is over.






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                      A few questions to consider:




                      • Do you have a binding contract signed off by them you just need to sign and send back? Or any other legally binding offer?

                        Until you have that you need to be in a hurry (to get it, not to sign)

                      • Is there any advantage of waiting? Negotiations? A better offer from somewhere else you would be waiting for?

                        If the answer is "no" you do not gain anything at waiting and your mind will be at peace once all the paperwork is over.






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                      A few questions to consider:




                      • Do you have a binding contract signed off by them you just need to sign and send back? Or any other legally binding offer?

                        Until you have that you need to be in a hurry (to get it, not to sign)

                      • Is there any advantage of waiting? Negotiations? A better offer from somewhere else you would be waiting for?

                        If the answer is "no" you do not gain anything at waiting and your mind will be at peace once all the paperwork is over.






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                      A few questions to consider:




                      • Do you have a binding contract signed off by them you just need to sign and send back? Or any other legally binding offer?

                        Until you have that you need to be in a hurry (to get it, not to sign)

                      • Is there any advantage of waiting? Negotiations? A better offer from somewhere else you would be waiting for?

                        If the answer is "no" you do not gain anything at waiting and your mind will be at peace once all the paperwork is over.







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                      I would take your colleagues advice - but not for the reason he cited.



                      Waiting a few days allows the excitement to die down and stops you from making rash decisions. Perhaps there is some catch in the agreement that you glazed over because you were too interested in the good parts.



                      You've also mentioned that other offers are coming in - waiting allows you to consider all of them properly. There might be a gem among them that you notice too late (if at all). It would be unfortunate to accept this offer moments before a better one arrives in the mail.



                      So I recommend waiting at least a couple of days just to cool down and consider your future carefully. If you have already done this, then I see no reason not to go ahead. As other answers have said, you want to build a positive relationship with these people and being prompt is a good way to start.






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                        I would take your colleagues advice - but not for the reason he cited.



                        Waiting a few days allows the excitement to die down and stops you from making rash decisions. Perhaps there is some catch in the agreement that you glazed over because you were too interested in the good parts.



                        You've also mentioned that other offers are coming in - waiting allows you to consider all of them properly. There might be a gem among them that you notice too late (if at all). It would be unfortunate to accept this offer moments before a better one arrives in the mail.



                        So I recommend waiting at least a couple of days just to cool down and consider your future carefully. If you have already done this, then I see no reason not to go ahead. As other answers have said, you want to build a positive relationship with these people and being prompt is a good way to start.






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                          I would take your colleagues advice - but not for the reason he cited.



                          Waiting a few days allows the excitement to die down and stops you from making rash decisions. Perhaps there is some catch in the agreement that you glazed over because you were too interested in the good parts.



                          You've also mentioned that other offers are coming in - waiting allows you to consider all of them properly. There might be a gem among them that you notice too late (if at all). It would be unfortunate to accept this offer moments before a better one arrives in the mail.



                          So I recommend waiting at least a couple of days just to cool down and consider your future carefully. If you have already done this, then I see no reason not to go ahead. As other answers have said, you want to build a positive relationship with these people and being prompt is a good way to start.






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                          I would take your colleagues advice - but not for the reason he cited.



                          Waiting a few days allows the excitement to die down and stops you from making rash decisions. Perhaps there is some catch in the agreement that you glazed over because you were too interested in the good parts.



                          You've also mentioned that other offers are coming in - waiting allows you to consider all of them properly. There might be a gem among them that you notice too late (if at all). It would be unfortunate to accept this offer moments before a better one arrives in the mail.



                          So I recommend waiting at least a couple of days just to cool down and consider your future carefully. If you have already done this, then I see no reason not to go ahead. As other answers have said, you want to build a positive relationship with these people and being prompt is a good way to start.







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                              I think your advisor has the right instincts here. Any time you are in this sort of position (schools, job search, etc.) it makes more sense to wait. It can only be to your benefit. Also, school A may decide to up their offer, give you a visit, etc.



                              It's not so much that anything bad will come of your accepting early. It won't make you look bad or too eager. But you are just not using the situation to max advantage.



                              P.s. I think it's a good question. Should not be closed.






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                              • As a follow-up to this - do you have any recommendations as to whether I should communicate to the PI I am in contact with the offering university? E.g. is it worthwhile for me to communicate with that Prof that I intend to accept? My key worry is that I can open up my spots at other universities/university-associated-fellowships (as I've read and understood this selection process can be quite resource-intensive).

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                              • Continue to communicate to this guy and deepen the relationship but don't make a commitment. Don't worry about the slots at other schools. They are running a bulk process and have people who decline/accept/don't show up out of the pool all the time. They will take care of themselves (e.g. letting in a few weaker candidates late if they need to). Be respectful but at the same time it is not your responsibility to optimize for them. Schools ding people all the time and get dinged all the time. Believe me they have a lot less at risk (from portfolio impact) than you do in the single commit.

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                                This is a poor answer - this is an offer for admission for grad school, not a job offer. Trying to stretch out for a better negotiation position is going to make you look bad, not good. I also find it a bit offensive to think of the admissions process for PhDs as a "bulk process": there might be some bulk filtering early on in the process, but at the time of accepting students it is in my experience quite personal and individualized. At a top school, it's less about "letting in a few weaker candidates" and more about "extending offers to other well-qualified options."

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                                8 hours ago






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                                Disagree. Committees routinely get many decisions towards the end. Perhaps even the bulk of them. There are very few times you have this level of control, freedom. Take advantage. Oh...and from personal perspective 2 of 6 of my accepts sent fellowships (few extra thousand bucks but makes a big difference when you are so poor) AFTER the initial accept letter and before decision time. [And you don't need to let them know why you are waiting.]

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                              I think your advisor has the right instincts here. Any time you are in this sort of position (schools, job search, etc.) it makes more sense to wait. It can only be to your benefit. Also, school A may decide to up their offer, give you a visit, etc.



                              It's not so much that anything bad will come of your accepting early. It won't make you look bad or too eager. But you are just not using the situation to max advantage.



                              P.s. I think it's a good question. Should not be closed.






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                              • As a follow-up to this - do you have any recommendations as to whether I should communicate to the PI I am in contact with the offering university? E.g. is it worthwhile for me to communicate with that Prof that I intend to accept? My key worry is that I can open up my spots at other universities/university-associated-fellowships (as I've read and understood this selection process can be quite resource-intensive).

                                – Reputable Misnomer
                                9 hours ago













                              • Continue to communicate to this guy and deepen the relationship but don't make a commitment. Don't worry about the slots at other schools. They are running a bulk process and have people who decline/accept/don't show up out of the pool all the time. They will take care of themselves (e.g. letting in a few weaker candidates late if they need to). Be respectful but at the same time it is not your responsibility to optimize for them. Schools ding people all the time and get dinged all the time. Believe me they have a lot less at risk (from portfolio impact) than you do in the single commit.

                                – guest
                                9 hours ago






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                                This is a poor answer - this is an offer for admission for grad school, not a job offer. Trying to stretch out for a better negotiation position is going to make you look bad, not good. I also find it a bit offensive to think of the admissions process for PhDs as a "bulk process": there might be some bulk filtering early on in the process, but at the time of accepting students it is in my experience quite personal and individualized. At a top school, it's less about "letting in a few weaker candidates" and more about "extending offers to other well-qualified options."

                                – Bryan Krause
                                8 hours ago






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                                Disagree. Committees routinely get many decisions towards the end. Perhaps even the bulk of them. There are very few times you have this level of control, freedom. Take advantage. Oh...and from personal perspective 2 of 6 of my accepts sent fellowships (few extra thousand bucks but makes a big difference when you are so poor) AFTER the initial accept letter and before decision time. [And you don't need to let them know why you are waiting.]

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                              I think your advisor has the right instincts here. Any time you are in this sort of position (schools, job search, etc.) it makes more sense to wait. It can only be to your benefit. Also, school A may decide to up their offer, give you a visit, etc.



                              It's not so much that anything bad will come of your accepting early. It won't make you look bad or too eager. But you are just not using the situation to max advantage.



                              P.s. I think it's a good question. Should not be closed.






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                              I think your advisor has the right instincts here. Any time you are in this sort of position (schools, job search, etc.) it makes more sense to wait. It can only be to your benefit. Also, school A may decide to up their offer, give you a visit, etc.



                              It's not so much that anything bad will come of your accepting early. It won't make you look bad or too eager. But you are just not using the situation to max advantage.



                              P.s. I think it's a good question. Should not be closed.







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                              • As a follow-up to this - do you have any recommendations as to whether I should communicate to the PI I am in contact with the offering university? E.g. is it worthwhile for me to communicate with that Prof that I intend to accept? My key worry is that I can open up my spots at other universities/university-associated-fellowships (as I've read and understood this selection process can be quite resource-intensive).

                                – Reputable Misnomer
                                9 hours ago













                              • Continue to communicate to this guy and deepen the relationship but don't make a commitment. Don't worry about the slots at other schools. They are running a bulk process and have people who decline/accept/don't show up out of the pool all the time. They will take care of themselves (e.g. letting in a few weaker candidates late if they need to). Be respectful but at the same time it is not your responsibility to optimize for them. Schools ding people all the time and get dinged all the time. Believe me they have a lot less at risk (from portfolio impact) than you do in the single commit.

                                – guest
                                9 hours ago






                              • 5





                                This is a poor answer - this is an offer for admission for grad school, not a job offer. Trying to stretch out for a better negotiation position is going to make you look bad, not good. I also find it a bit offensive to think of the admissions process for PhDs as a "bulk process": there might be some bulk filtering early on in the process, but at the time of accepting students it is in my experience quite personal and individualized. At a top school, it's less about "letting in a few weaker candidates" and more about "extending offers to other well-qualified options."

                                – Bryan Krause
                                8 hours ago






                              • 1





                                Disagree. Committees routinely get many decisions towards the end. Perhaps even the bulk of them. There are very few times you have this level of control, freedom. Take advantage. Oh...and from personal perspective 2 of 6 of my accepts sent fellowships (few extra thousand bucks but makes a big difference when you are so poor) AFTER the initial accept letter and before decision time. [And you don't need to let them know why you are waiting.]

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                                8 hours ago





















                              • As a follow-up to this - do you have any recommendations as to whether I should communicate to the PI I am in contact with the offering university? E.g. is it worthwhile for me to communicate with that Prof that I intend to accept? My key worry is that I can open up my spots at other universities/university-associated-fellowships (as I've read and understood this selection process can be quite resource-intensive).

                                – Reputable Misnomer
                                9 hours ago













                              • Continue to communicate to this guy and deepen the relationship but don't make a commitment. Don't worry about the slots at other schools. They are running a bulk process and have people who decline/accept/don't show up out of the pool all the time. They will take care of themselves (e.g. letting in a few weaker candidates late if they need to). Be respectful but at the same time it is not your responsibility to optimize for them. Schools ding people all the time and get dinged all the time. Believe me they have a lot less at risk (from portfolio impact) than you do in the single commit.

                                – guest
                                9 hours ago






                              • 5





                                This is a poor answer - this is an offer for admission for grad school, not a job offer. Trying to stretch out for a better negotiation position is going to make you look bad, not good. I also find it a bit offensive to think of the admissions process for PhDs as a "bulk process": there might be some bulk filtering early on in the process, but at the time of accepting students it is in my experience quite personal and individualized. At a top school, it's less about "letting in a few weaker candidates" and more about "extending offers to other well-qualified options."

                                – Bryan Krause
                                8 hours ago






                              • 1





                                Disagree. Committees routinely get many decisions towards the end. Perhaps even the bulk of them. There are very few times you have this level of control, freedom. Take advantage. Oh...and from personal perspective 2 of 6 of my accepts sent fellowships (few extra thousand bucks but makes a big difference when you are so poor) AFTER the initial accept letter and before decision time. [And you don't need to let them know why you are waiting.]

                                – guest
                                8 hours ago



















                              As a follow-up to this - do you have any recommendations as to whether I should communicate to the PI I am in contact with the offering university? E.g. is it worthwhile for me to communicate with that Prof that I intend to accept? My key worry is that I can open up my spots at other universities/university-associated-fellowships (as I've read and understood this selection process can be quite resource-intensive).

                              – Reputable Misnomer
                              9 hours ago







                              As a follow-up to this - do you have any recommendations as to whether I should communicate to the PI I am in contact with the offering university? E.g. is it worthwhile for me to communicate with that Prof that I intend to accept? My key worry is that I can open up my spots at other universities/university-associated-fellowships (as I've read and understood this selection process can be quite resource-intensive).

                              – Reputable Misnomer
                              9 hours ago















                              Continue to communicate to this guy and deepen the relationship but don't make a commitment. Don't worry about the slots at other schools. They are running a bulk process and have people who decline/accept/don't show up out of the pool all the time. They will take care of themselves (e.g. letting in a few weaker candidates late if they need to). Be respectful but at the same time it is not your responsibility to optimize for them. Schools ding people all the time and get dinged all the time. Believe me they have a lot less at risk (from portfolio impact) than you do in the single commit.

                              – guest
                              9 hours ago





                              Continue to communicate to this guy and deepen the relationship but don't make a commitment. Don't worry about the slots at other schools. They are running a bulk process and have people who decline/accept/don't show up out of the pool all the time. They will take care of themselves (e.g. letting in a few weaker candidates late if they need to). Be respectful but at the same time it is not your responsibility to optimize for them. Schools ding people all the time and get dinged all the time. Believe me they have a lot less at risk (from portfolio impact) than you do in the single commit.

                              – guest
                              9 hours ago




                              5




                              5





                              This is a poor answer - this is an offer for admission for grad school, not a job offer. Trying to stretch out for a better negotiation position is going to make you look bad, not good. I also find it a bit offensive to think of the admissions process for PhDs as a "bulk process": there might be some bulk filtering early on in the process, but at the time of accepting students it is in my experience quite personal and individualized. At a top school, it's less about "letting in a few weaker candidates" and more about "extending offers to other well-qualified options."

                              – Bryan Krause
                              8 hours ago





                              This is a poor answer - this is an offer for admission for grad school, not a job offer. Trying to stretch out for a better negotiation position is going to make you look bad, not good. I also find it a bit offensive to think of the admissions process for PhDs as a "bulk process": there might be some bulk filtering early on in the process, but at the time of accepting students it is in my experience quite personal and individualized. At a top school, it's less about "letting in a few weaker candidates" and more about "extending offers to other well-qualified options."

                              – Bryan Krause
                              8 hours ago




                              1




                              1





                              Disagree. Committees routinely get many decisions towards the end. Perhaps even the bulk of them. There are very few times you have this level of control, freedom. Take advantage. Oh...and from personal perspective 2 of 6 of my accepts sent fellowships (few extra thousand bucks but makes a big difference when you are so poor) AFTER the initial accept letter and before decision time. [And you don't need to let them know why you are waiting.]

                              – guest
                              8 hours ago







                              Disagree. Committees routinely get many decisions towards the end. Perhaps even the bulk of them. There are very few times you have this level of control, freedom. Take advantage. Oh...and from personal perspective 2 of 6 of my accepts sent fellowships (few extra thousand bucks but makes a big difference when you are so poor) AFTER the initial accept letter and before decision time. [And you don't need to let them know why you are waiting.]

                              – guest
                              8 hours ago




















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