A road system with no traffic rules - what sort of vehicle is best?












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In Britopia there were the Leftists who believed motorists should drive on the left and the Rightists who believed they should drive on the Right. The vote split exactly down the middle and it was finally decided that there would be no rule at all.



In the end it was further decided that there would be no traffic rules of any kind: no right of way at junctions, no speed limits, no parking restrictions and so on.



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In this 21st century country what is the best vehicle to have. "Best" means the most likely to get you from A to B in the shortest time whilst remaining alive and healthy.



Bear in mind that other laws exist so you can't deliberately murder other motorists, by shooting them for example.





To those who are voting to close because the question is 'too broad', I'd like to point out that I'm simply asking for the most suitable mode of transport as defined by getting from A to B as quickly and safely as possible. I don't think that could be any clearer or better defined. In fact I'd claim that it is more clearly defined than the majority of the questions on this site. If I left out 'safely' or left out 'quickly' it would be a completely different question.










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    Vote exactly in the middle is practically impossible and in most law systems would mean that things stay the way they were. Situation you describe is utterly impossible, people are not that stupid.
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    Clearly y'all have never watched any of the ten million "worlds worst traffic" videos on Youtube! Chasly is basically describing every day traffic in, for example, Cairo, except they do apparently drive mostly on opposite sides of the street. Forget about what is "impossible" and get along with answering the questions! (And what Brexit has to do with anything is beyond me...)
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    The problem with something like this is that when there is a benefit in some kind of consensus to make society function well and the law is silent social norms fill the vacuum. Hell if anything laws are mostly a step up from social norms, they are just norms that have become so important to the population that the majority largely favour enforcing those norms with the threat of violence or other punishment from the state if necessary. There is no law saying what side of the escalator to stand on the London underground but being consistent is helpful thus social norms encourage compliance.
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In Britopia there were the Leftists who believed motorists should drive on the left and the Rightists who believed they should drive on the Right. The vote split exactly down the middle and it was finally decided that there would be no rule at all.



In the end it was further decided that there would be no traffic rules of any kind: no right of way at junctions, no speed limits, no parking restrictions and so on.



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In this 21st century country what is the best vehicle to have. "Best" means the most likely to get you from A to B in the shortest time whilst remaining alive and healthy.



Bear in mind that other laws exist so you can't deliberately murder other motorists, by shooting them for example.





To those who are voting to close because the question is 'too broad', I'd like to point out that I'm simply asking for the most suitable mode of transport as defined by getting from A to B as quickly and safely as possible. I don't think that could be any clearer or better defined. In fact I'd claim that it is more clearly defined than the majority of the questions on this site. If I left out 'safely' or left out 'quickly' it would be a completely different question.










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    Vote exactly in the middle is practically impossible and in most law systems would mean that things stay the way they were. Situation you describe is utterly impossible, people are not that stupid.
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    Don't twist what I said, please. As for Brexit - yes, they didn't figure out the deal, so they are still going to exit, nothing changes. Just like what I've said.
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    Clearly y'all have never watched any of the ten million "worlds worst traffic" videos on Youtube! Chasly is basically describing every day traffic in, for example, Cairo, except they do apparently drive mostly on opposite sides of the street. Forget about what is "impossible" and get along with answering the questions! (And what Brexit has to do with anything is beyond me...)
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    The problem with something like this is that when there is a benefit in some kind of consensus to make society function well and the law is silent social norms fill the vacuum. Hell if anything laws are mostly a step up from social norms, they are just norms that have become so important to the population that the majority largely favour enforcing those norms with the threat of violence or other punishment from the state if necessary. There is no law saying what side of the escalator to stand on the London underground but being consistent is helpful thus social norms encourage compliance.
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In Britopia there were the Leftists who believed motorists should drive on the left and the Rightists who believed they should drive on the Right. The vote split exactly down the middle and it was finally decided that there would be no rule at all.



In the end it was further decided that there would be no traffic rules of any kind: no right of way at junctions, no speed limits, no parking restrictions and so on.



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In this 21st century country what is the best vehicle to have. "Best" means the most likely to get you from A to B in the shortest time whilst remaining alive and healthy.



Bear in mind that other laws exist so you can't deliberately murder other motorists, by shooting them for example.





To those who are voting to close because the question is 'too broad', I'd like to point out that I'm simply asking for the most suitable mode of transport as defined by getting from A to B as quickly and safely as possible. I don't think that could be any clearer or better defined. In fact I'd claim that it is more clearly defined than the majority of the questions on this site. If I left out 'safely' or left out 'quickly' it would be a completely different question.










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In Britopia there were the Leftists who believed motorists should drive on the left and the Rightists who believed they should drive on the Right. The vote split exactly down the middle and it was finally decided that there would be no rule at all.



In the end it was further decided that there would be no traffic rules of any kind: no right of way at junctions, no speed limits, no parking restrictions and so on.



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In this 21st century country what is the best vehicle to have. "Best" means the most likely to get you from A to B in the shortest time whilst remaining alive and healthy.



Bear in mind that other laws exist so you can't deliberately murder other motorists, by shooting them for example.





To those who are voting to close because the question is 'too broad', I'd like to point out that I'm simply asking for the most suitable mode of transport as defined by getting from A to B as quickly and safely as possible. I don't think that could be any clearer or better defined. In fact I'd claim that it is more clearly defined than the majority of the questions on this site. If I left out 'safely' or left out 'quickly' it would be a completely different question.







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    Vote exactly in the middle is practically impossible and in most law systems would mean that things stay the way they were. Situation you describe is utterly impossible, people are not that stupid.
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    Don't twist what I said, please. As for Brexit - yes, they didn't figure out the deal, so they are still going to exit, nothing changes. Just like what I've said.
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    Clearly y'all have never watched any of the ten million "worlds worst traffic" videos on Youtube! Chasly is basically describing every day traffic in, for example, Cairo, except they do apparently drive mostly on opposite sides of the street. Forget about what is "impossible" and get along with answering the questions! (And what Brexit has to do with anything is beyond me...)
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    The problem with something like this is that when there is a benefit in some kind of consensus to make society function well and the law is silent social norms fill the vacuum. Hell if anything laws are mostly a step up from social norms, they are just norms that have become so important to the population that the majority largely favour enforcing those norms with the threat of violence or other punishment from the state if necessary. There is no law saying what side of the escalator to stand on the London underground but being consistent is helpful thus social norms encourage compliance.
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    Vote exactly in the middle is practically impossible and in most law systems would mean that things stay the way they were. Situation you describe is utterly impossible, people are not that stupid.
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    Don't twist what I said, please. As for Brexit - yes, they didn't figure out the deal, so they are still going to exit, nothing changes. Just like what I've said.
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    Clearly y'all have never watched any of the ten million "worlds worst traffic" videos on Youtube! Chasly is basically describing every day traffic in, for example, Cairo, except they do apparently drive mostly on opposite sides of the street. Forget about what is "impossible" and get along with answering the questions! (And what Brexit has to do with anything is beyond me...)
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    The problem with something like this is that when there is a benefit in some kind of consensus to make society function well and the law is silent social norms fill the vacuum. Hell if anything laws are mostly a step up from social norms, they are just norms that have become so important to the population that the majority largely favour enforcing those norms with the threat of violence or other punishment from the state if necessary. There is no law saying what side of the escalator to stand on the London underground but being consistent is helpful thus social norms encourage compliance.
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Vote exactly in the middle is practically impossible and in most law systems would mean that things stay the way they were. Situation you describe is utterly impossible, people are not that stupid.
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Vote exactly in the middle is practically impossible and in most law systems would mean that things stay the way they were. Situation you describe is utterly impossible, people are not that stupid.
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Don't twist what I said, please. As for Brexit - yes, they didn't figure out the deal, so they are still going to exit, nothing changes. Just like what I've said.
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Don't twist what I said, please. As for Brexit - yes, they didn't figure out the deal, so they are still going to exit, nothing changes. Just like what I've said.
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Clearly y'all have never watched any of the ten million "worlds worst traffic" videos on Youtube! Chasly is basically describing every day traffic in, for example, Cairo, except they do apparently drive mostly on opposite sides of the street. Forget about what is "impossible" and get along with answering the questions! (And what Brexit has to do with anything is beyond me...)
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The problem with something like this is that when there is a benefit in some kind of consensus to make society function well and the law is silent social norms fill the vacuum. Hell if anything laws are mostly a step up from social norms, they are just norms that have become so important to the population that the majority largely favour enforcing those norms with the threat of violence or other punishment from the state if necessary. There is no law saying what side of the escalator to stand on the London underground but being consistent is helpful thus social norms encourage compliance.
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The problem with something like this is that when there is a benefit in some kind of consensus to make society function well and the law is silent social norms fill the vacuum. Hell if anything laws are mostly a step up from social norms, they are just norms that have become so important to the population that the majority largely favour enforcing those norms with the threat of violence or other punishment from the state if necessary. There is no law saying what side of the escalator to stand on the London underground but being consistent is helpful thus social norms encourage compliance.
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    Only if all drivers are using the same transportation type...since there's no regulation, this seems unlikely. Horses are fantastic, but will not help you much if someone else drives a semi into you.
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While the scenario painted may seem quite bizarre and downright deadly, the fact of the matter is, minimal traffic regulation does not necessarily mean you need to drive an Abrams Tank just to make it home from your downtown office park every day!



As a matter of fact, we in the Traffic Tabulation Bureau have conducted a comprehensively exhaustive study of various traffic patterns around the world and have come to the conclusion that, contrary to all expected laws of physics, a small motorcar is every bit as effective as a tank when it comes to negotiating the ebb and flow of every day Britopian traffic.



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And the reason is quite simple. Our Bureau have determined that a simple law of physics applies: the denser the traffic, the slower the flow. What this means is that, even when an entirely chaotic, semi-brownian, system is implemented, a much more organic flow is created. As you can see, it is quite possible for large lorries, busses, jeepneys, pedicabs, scooters, hand carts, random animals, pedestrians, rickshaws, trams and motorcars to interact quite safely at lower speeds. Sure, it may take you two hours to travel five miles, but the ride will be very manageable and very unlikely to cause major mishap.



Kindly review our Minimal Traffic Regulation test videos:



Cairo
Delhi
Manila
Addis Ababa



As you can see, every major jurisdiction that implements our system demonstrates how terribly effective it truly is!






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    "every major jurisdiction that implements our system demonstrates how terribly effective it truly is!" But how many of those use vehicles where the driver sits on the wrong side?
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    Haha! Brilliant. I've extracted a couple of clips from your videos. This youtu.be/VPbUpdmAfck?t=13 is exactly the sort of chaos I was imagining and this youtu.be/l6wb7Sb2lNQ?t=196 shows what happens when things get busy.
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    Btw I'm not sure which vehicle you are recommending - is it the mini? Remember the question requires you to get from A to B quickly and safely. (In other words I haven't specified delivery vehicles)
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    @chasly I think what this answer is saying is that "anarchy" and "get places quickly" are mutually exclusive, safety or no.
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Bikes. Although humans are not as smart as horses when it comes to not crashing against each other, bikes are cheaper to acquire and maintain, and will generally keep the streets clearer. Drivers can benefit from the exercise.



Also, this being about Britain, I had a certain song from Queen on my mind while typing this.




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    Since this is more or less Britain, I'd vote for the Challenger 2 MBT



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    It will simply roll over any "normal" automobile, leaving behind a trail of flattened Jags, Bentleys, Land Rovers, Beamers and Morris Minors.






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      I think flattening people's cars while they are still in them would violate the 'no murder' rule.
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      @chaslyfromUK - But it's a collision. If they use the main gun, on the other hand....
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      @WhatRoughBeast it would not be the first time a British person has thought of using a tank.m.youtube.com/watch?v=PD6qdzQvHhE
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    Contrary to popular belief, more trafic laws makes roads less safe (1, 2). Many places are now reducing the amount of signs to make it safer, and to make sure that attention is on the road and other drivers rather than each other.



    No rules is taking that to the extreme, but its not completely unimagineable. Ever been to India? I have and it's true: they do not pay attention to any markings on the road or any signs. The only rule they semi-follow is what side of the road they drive on, but whenever the traffic allows that rule is out of the window too. Strangely enough, driving there felt like one of the safest experiences I've had as people constantly communicate with horns and their movement, but I hadnt experienced a situation where there wasnt adequate time to react and safely get through.



    So if a leftists leaves the house and he finds himself encountering rightists he'll join them for the time being, or vice versa. Any intersection that cannot be overseen will be slowly approached in case someone from another direction comes at you. Similar to small roads or similar people will decide on the spot who will pass first and who will move aside, or in this case chose who will temporarily change being a leftist or rightist.



    In the end the best car isnt going to be the smallest or the biggest, it's going to be the most visible one with the clearest communication of direction and intent, possibly with a set of horns declaring "watchout", "you go ahead" and "I go ahead". So keep those lights on your car in good working order, strap in and drive safe.



    (1) https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/feb/04/removal-road-markings-safer-fewer-accidents-drivers
    (2) https://www.drivingtests.co.nz/resources/signage-clutter-what-is-it-and-how-is-it-reduced/






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      "more trafic laws makes roads less safe" - but not from 0. There is some amount of laws that's optimal. Problem is - lawmakers tend to make more to avoid feeling useless ;)
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      @Molot yes, thats why I said "No rules takes that to the extreme".
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      Only if all drivers are using the same transportation type...since there's no regulation, this seems unlikely. Horses are fantastic, but will not help you much if someone else drives a semi into you.
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      Only if all drivers are using the same transportation type...since there's no regulation, this seems unlikely. Horses are fantastic, but will not help you much if someone else drives a semi into you.
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      Only if all drivers are using the same transportation type...since there's no regulation, this seems unlikely. Horses are fantastic, but will not help you much if someone else drives a semi into you.
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    Only if all drivers are using the same transportation type...since there's no regulation, this seems unlikely. Horses are fantastic, but will not help you much if someone else drives a semi into you.
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    While the scenario painted may seem quite bizarre and downright deadly, the fact of the matter is, minimal traffic regulation does not necessarily mean you need to drive an Abrams Tank just to make it home from your downtown office park every day!



    As a matter of fact, we in the Traffic Tabulation Bureau have conducted a comprehensively exhaustive study of various traffic patterns around the world and have come to the conclusion that, contrary to all expected laws of physics, a small motorcar is every bit as effective as a tank when it comes to negotiating the ebb and flow of every day Britopian traffic.



    Mini Cooper



    And the reason is quite simple. Our Bureau have determined that a simple law of physics applies: the denser the traffic, the slower the flow. What this means is that, even when an entirely chaotic, semi-brownian, system is implemented, a much more organic flow is created. As you can see, it is quite possible for large lorries, busses, jeepneys, pedicabs, scooters, hand carts, random animals, pedestrians, rickshaws, trams and motorcars to interact quite safely at lower speeds. Sure, it may take you two hours to travel five miles, but the ride will be very manageable and very unlikely to cause major mishap.



    Kindly review our Minimal Traffic Regulation test videos:



    Cairo
    Delhi
    Manila
    Addis Ababa



    As you can see, every major jurisdiction that implements our system demonstrates how terribly effective it truly is!






    share|improve this answer









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    • $begingroup$
      "every major jurisdiction that implements our system demonstrates how terribly effective it truly is!" But how many of those use vehicles where the driver sits on the wrong side?
      $endgroup$
      – a CVn
      1 hour ago










    • $begingroup$
      Haha! Brilliant. I've extracted a couple of clips from your videos. This youtu.be/VPbUpdmAfck?t=13 is exactly the sort of chaos I was imagining and this youtu.be/l6wb7Sb2lNQ?t=196 shows what happens when things get busy.
      $endgroup$
      – chasly from UK
      1 hour ago










    • $begingroup$
      Btw I'm not sure which vehicle you are recommending - is it the mini? Remember the question requires you to get from A to B quickly and safely. (In other words I haven't specified delivery vehicles)
      $endgroup$
      – chasly from UK
      1 hour ago










    • $begingroup$
      @chasly I think what this answer is saying is that "anarchy" and "get places quickly" are mutually exclusive, safety or no.
      $endgroup$
      – Cadence
      30 mins ago
















    6












    $begingroup$

    While the scenario painted may seem quite bizarre and downright deadly, the fact of the matter is, minimal traffic regulation does not necessarily mean you need to drive an Abrams Tank just to make it home from your downtown office park every day!



    As a matter of fact, we in the Traffic Tabulation Bureau have conducted a comprehensively exhaustive study of various traffic patterns around the world and have come to the conclusion that, contrary to all expected laws of physics, a small motorcar is every bit as effective as a tank when it comes to negotiating the ebb and flow of every day Britopian traffic.



    Mini Cooper



    And the reason is quite simple. Our Bureau have determined that a simple law of physics applies: the denser the traffic, the slower the flow. What this means is that, even when an entirely chaotic, semi-brownian, system is implemented, a much more organic flow is created. As you can see, it is quite possible for large lorries, busses, jeepneys, pedicabs, scooters, hand carts, random animals, pedestrians, rickshaws, trams and motorcars to interact quite safely at lower speeds. Sure, it may take you two hours to travel five miles, but the ride will be very manageable and very unlikely to cause major mishap.



    Kindly review our Minimal Traffic Regulation test videos:



    Cairo
    Delhi
    Manila
    Addis Ababa



    As you can see, every major jurisdiction that implements our system demonstrates how terribly effective it truly is!






    share|improve this answer









    $endgroup$













    • $begingroup$
      "every major jurisdiction that implements our system demonstrates how terribly effective it truly is!" But how many of those use vehicles where the driver sits on the wrong side?
      $endgroup$
      – a CVn
      1 hour ago










    • $begingroup$
      Haha! Brilliant. I've extracted a couple of clips from your videos. This youtu.be/VPbUpdmAfck?t=13 is exactly the sort of chaos I was imagining and this youtu.be/l6wb7Sb2lNQ?t=196 shows what happens when things get busy.
      $endgroup$
      – chasly from UK
      1 hour ago










    • $begingroup$
      Btw I'm not sure which vehicle you are recommending - is it the mini? Remember the question requires you to get from A to B quickly and safely. (In other words I haven't specified delivery vehicles)
      $endgroup$
      – chasly from UK
      1 hour ago










    • $begingroup$
      @chasly I think what this answer is saying is that "anarchy" and "get places quickly" are mutually exclusive, safety or no.
      $endgroup$
      – Cadence
      30 mins ago














    6












    6








    6





    $begingroup$

    While the scenario painted may seem quite bizarre and downright deadly, the fact of the matter is, minimal traffic regulation does not necessarily mean you need to drive an Abrams Tank just to make it home from your downtown office park every day!



    As a matter of fact, we in the Traffic Tabulation Bureau have conducted a comprehensively exhaustive study of various traffic patterns around the world and have come to the conclusion that, contrary to all expected laws of physics, a small motorcar is every bit as effective as a tank when it comes to negotiating the ebb and flow of every day Britopian traffic.



    Mini Cooper



    And the reason is quite simple. Our Bureau have determined that a simple law of physics applies: the denser the traffic, the slower the flow. What this means is that, even when an entirely chaotic, semi-brownian, system is implemented, a much more organic flow is created. As you can see, it is quite possible for large lorries, busses, jeepneys, pedicabs, scooters, hand carts, random animals, pedestrians, rickshaws, trams and motorcars to interact quite safely at lower speeds. Sure, it may take you two hours to travel five miles, but the ride will be very manageable and very unlikely to cause major mishap.



    Kindly review our Minimal Traffic Regulation test videos:



    Cairo
    Delhi
    Manila
    Addis Ababa



    As you can see, every major jurisdiction that implements our system demonstrates how terribly effective it truly is!






    share|improve this answer









    $endgroup$



    While the scenario painted may seem quite bizarre and downright deadly, the fact of the matter is, minimal traffic regulation does not necessarily mean you need to drive an Abrams Tank just to make it home from your downtown office park every day!



    As a matter of fact, we in the Traffic Tabulation Bureau have conducted a comprehensively exhaustive study of various traffic patterns around the world and have come to the conclusion that, contrary to all expected laws of physics, a small motorcar is every bit as effective as a tank when it comes to negotiating the ebb and flow of every day Britopian traffic.



    Mini Cooper



    And the reason is quite simple. Our Bureau have determined that a simple law of physics applies: the denser the traffic, the slower the flow. What this means is that, even when an entirely chaotic, semi-brownian, system is implemented, a much more organic flow is created. As you can see, it is quite possible for large lorries, busses, jeepneys, pedicabs, scooters, hand carts, random animals, pedestrians, rickshaws, trams and motorcars to interact quite safely at lower speeds. Sure, it may take you two hours to travel five miles, but the ride will be very manageable and very unlikely to cause major mishap.



    Kindly review our Minimal Traffic Regulation test videos:



    Cairo
    Delhi
    Manila
    Addis Ababa



    As you can see, every major jurisdiction that implements our system demonstrates how terribly effective it truly is!







    share|improve this answer












    share|improve this answer



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    answered 1 hour ago









    elemtilaselemtilas

    12.7k22658




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    • $begingroup$
      "every major jurisdiction that implements our system demonstrates how terribly effective it truly is!" But how many of those use vehicles where the driver sits on the wrong side?
      $endgroup$
      – a CVn
      1 hour ago










    • $begingroup$
      Haha! Brilliant. I've extracted a couple of clips from your videos. This youtu.be/VPbUpdmAfck?t=13 is exactly the sort of chaos I was imagining and this youtu.be/l6wb7Sb2lNQ?t=196 shows what happens when things get busy.
      $endgroup$
      – chasly from UK
      1 hour ago










    • $begingroup$
      Btw I'm not sure which vehicle you are recommending - is it the mini? Remember the question requires you to get from A to B quickly and safely. (In other words I haven't specified delivery vehicles)
      $endgroup$
      – chasly from UK
      1 hour ago










    • $begingroup$
      @chasly I think what this answer is saying is that "anarchy" and "get places quickly" are mutually exclusive, safety or no.
      $endgroup$
      – Cadence
      30 mins ago


















    • $begingroup$
      "every major jurisdiction that implements our system demonstrates how terribly effective it truly is!" But how many of those use vehicles where the driver sits on the wrong side?
      $endgroup$
      – a CVn
      1 hour ago










    • $begingroup$
      Haha! Brilliant. I've extracted a couple of clips from your videos. This youtu.be/VPbUpdmAfck?t=13 is exactly the sort of chaos I was imagining and this youtu.be/l6wb7Sb2lNQ?t=196 shows what happens when things get busy.
      $endgroup$
      – chasly from UK
      1 hour ago










    • $begingroup$
      Btw I'm not sure which vehicle you are recommending - is it the mini? Remember the question requires you to get from A to B quickly and safely. (In other words I haven't specified delivery vehicles)
      $endgroup$
      – chasly from UK
      1 hour ago










    • $begingroup$
      @chasly I think what this answer is saying is that "anarchy" and "get places quickly" are mutually exclusive, safety or no.
      $endgroup$
      – Cadence
      30 mins ago
















    $begingroup$
    "every major jurisdiction that implements our system demonstrates how terribly effective it truly is!" But how many of those use vehicles where the driver sits on the wrong side?
    $endgroup$
    – a CVn
    1 hour ago




    $begingroup$
    "every major jurisdiction that implements our system demonstrates how terribly effective it truly is!" But how many of those use vehicles where the driver sits on the wrong side?
    $endgroup$
    – a CVn
    1 hour ago












    $begingroup$
    Haha! Brilliant. I've extracted a couple of clips from your videos. This youtu.be/VPbUpdmAfck?t=13 is exactly the sort of chaos I was imagining and this youtu.be/l6wb7Sb2lNQ?t=196 shows what happens when things get busy.
    $endgroup$
    – chasly from UK
    1 hour ago




    $begingroup$
    Haha! Brilliant. I've extracted a couple of clips from your videos. This youtu.be/VPbUpdmAfck?t=13 is exactly the sort of chaos I was imagining and this youtu.be/l6wb7Sb2lNQ?t=196 shows what happens when things get busy.
    $endgroup$
    – chasly from UK
    1 hour ago












    $begingroup$
    Btw I'm not sure which vehicle you are recommending - is it the mini? Remember the question requires you to get from A to B quickly and safely. (In other words I haven't specified delivery vehicles)
    $endgroup$
    – chasly from UK
    1 hour ago




    $begingroup$
    Btw I'm not sure which vehicle you are recommending - is it the mini? Remember the question requires you to get from A to B quickly and safely. (In other words I haven't specified delivery vehicles)
    $endgroup$
    – chasly from UK
    1 hour ago












    $begingroup$
    @chasly I think what this answer is saying is that "anarchy" and "get places quickly" are mutually exclusive, safety or no.
    $endgroup$
    – Cadence
    30 mins ago




    $begingroup$
    @chasly I think what this answer is saying is that "anarchy" and "get places quickly" are mutually exclusive, safety or no.
    $endgroup$
    – Cadence
    30 mins ago











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    Bikes. Although humans are not as smart as horses when it comes to not crashing against each other, bikes are cheaper to acquire and maintain, and will generally keep the streets clearer. Drivers can benefit from the exercise.



    Also, this being about Britain, I had a certain song from Queen on my mind while typing this.




    Bicycle races are coming your way

    So forget all your duties oh yeah!

    Fat bottomed girls they'll be riding today

    So look out for those beauties oh yeah







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      $begingroup$

      Bikes. Although humans are not as smart as horses when it comes to not crashing against each other, bikes are cheaper to acquire and maintain, and will generally keep the streets clearer. Drivers can benefit from the exercise.



      Also, this being about Britain, I had a certain song from Queen on my mind while typing this.




      Bicycle races are coming your way

      So forget all your duties oh yeah!

      Fat bottomed girls they'll be riding today

      So look out for those beauties oh yeah







      share|improve this answer









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        4












        4








        4





        $begingroup$

        Bikes. Although humans are not as smart as horses when it comes to not crashing against each other, bikes are cheaper to acquire and maintain, and will generally keep the streets clearer. Drivers can benefit from the exercise.



        Also, this being about Britain, I had a certain song from Queen on my mind while typing this.




        Bicycle races are coming your way

        So forget all your duties oh yeah!

        Fat bottomed girls they'll be riding today

        So look out for those beauties oh yeah







        share|improve this answer









        $endgroup$



        Bikes. Although humans are not as smart as horses when it comes to not crashing against each other, bikes are cheaper to acquire and maintain, and will generally keep the streets clearer. Drivers can benefit from the exercise.



        Also, this being about Britain, I had a certain song from Queen on my mind while typing this.




        Bicycle races are coming your way

        So forget all your duties oh yeah!

        Fat bottomed girls they'll be riding today

        So look out for those beauties oh yeah








        share|improve this answer












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        answered 1 hour ago









        RenanRenan

        45.6k11105229




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            Since this is more or less Britain, I'd vote for the Challenger 2 MBT



            enter image description here



            It will simply roll over any "normal" automobile, leaving behind a trail of flattened Jags, Bentleys, Land Rovers, Beamers and Morris Minors.






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            • 2




              $begingroup$
              I think flattening people's cars while they are still in them would violate the 'no murder' rule.
              $endgroup$
              – chasly from UK
              2 hours ago












            • $begingroup$
              @chaslyfromUK - But it's a collision. If they use the main gun, on the other hand....
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              – WhatRoughBeast
              2 hours ago










            • $begingroup$
              @WhatRoughBeast it would not be the first time a British person has thought of using a tank.m.youtube.com/watch?v=PD6qdzQvHhE
              $endgroup$
              – Sarriesfan
              50 mins ago






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              What happens when two people have the same idea and a two tanks end up playing chicken?
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              – Rob
              10 mins ago










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              The primary problem with this idea is when everybody uses it.
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              – Joshua
              4 mins ago
















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            $begingroup$

            Since this is more or less Britain, I'd vote for the Challenger 2 MBT



            enter image description here



            It will simply roll over any "normal" automobile, leaving behind a trail of flattened Jags, Bentleys, Land Rovers, Beamers and Morris Minors.






            share|improve this answer









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            • 2




              $begingroup$
              I think flattening people's cars while they are still in them would violate the 'no murder' rule.
              $endgroup$
              – chasly from UK
              2 hours ago












            • $begingroup$
              @chaslyfromUK - But it's a collision. If they use the main gun, on the other hand....
              $endgroup$
              – WhatRoughBeast
              2 hours ago










            • $begingroup$
              @WhatRoughBeast it would not be the first time a British person has thought of using a tank.m.youtube.com/watch?v=PD6qdzQvHhE
              $endgroup$
              – Sarriesfan
              50 mins ago






            • 1




              $begingroup$
              What happens when two people have the same idea and a two tanks end up playing chicken?
              $endgroup$
              – Rob
              10 mins ago










            • $begingroup$
              The primary problem with this idea is when everybody uses it.
              $endgroup$
              – Joshua
              4 mins ago














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            2





            $begingroup$

            Since this is more or less Britain, I'd vote for the Challenger 2 MBT



            enter image description here



            It will simply roll over any "normal" automobile, leaving behind a trail of flattened Jags, Bentleys, Land Rovers, Beamers and Morris Minors.






            share|improve this answer









            $endgroup$



            Since this is more or less Britain, I'd vote for the Challenger 2 MBT



            enter image description here



            It will simply roll over any "normal" automobile, leaving behind a trail of flattened Jags, Bentleys, Land Rovers, Beamers and Morris Minors.







            share|improve this answer












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            answered 2 hours ago









            WhatRoughBeastWhatRoughBeast

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            • 2




              $begingroup$
              I think flattening people's cars while they are still in them would violate the 'no murder' rule.
              $endgroup$
              – chasly from UK
              2 hours ago












            • $begingroup$
              @chaslyfromUK - But it's a collision. If they use the main gun, on the other hand....
              $endgroup$
              – WhatRoughBeast
              2 hours ago










            • $begingroup$
              @WhatRoughBeast it would not be the first time a British person has thought of using a tank.m.youtube.com/watch?v=PD6qdzQvHhE
              $endgroup$
              – Sarriesfan
              50 mins ago






            • 1




              $begingroup$
              What happens when two people have the same idea and a two tanks end up playing chicken?
              $endgroup$
              – Rob
              10 mins ago










            • $begingroup$
              The primary problem with this idea is when everybody uses it.
              $endgroup$
              – Joshua
              4 mins ago














            • 2




              $begingroup$
              I think flattening people's cars while they are still in them would violate the 'no murder' rule.
              $endgroup$
              – chasly from UK
              2 hours ago












            • $begingroup$
              @chaslyfromUK - But it's a collision. If they use the main gun, on the other hand....
              $endgroup$
              – WhatRoughBeast
              2 hours ago










            • $begingroup$
              @WhatRoughBeast it would not be the first time a British person has thought of using a tank.m.youtube.com/watch?v=PD6qdzQvHhE
              $endgroup$
              – Sarriesfan
              50 mins ago






            • 1




              $begingroup$
              What happens when two people have the same idea and a two tanks end up playing chicken?
              $endgroup$
              – Rob
              10 mins ago










            • $begingroup$
              The primary problem with this idea is when everybody uses it.
              $endgroup$
              – Joshua
              4 mins ago








            2




            2




            $begingroup$
            I think flattening people's cars while they are still in them would violate the 'no murder' rule.
            $endgroup$
            – chasly from UK
            2 hours ago






            $begingroup$
            I think flattening people's cars while they are still in them would violate the 'no murder' rule.
            $endgroup$
            – chasly from UK
            2 hours ago














            $begingroup$
            @chaslyfromUK - But it's a collision. If they use the main gun, on the other hand....
            $endgroup$
            – WhatRoughBeast
            2 hours ago




            $begingroup$
            @chaslyfromUK - But it's a collision. If they use the main gun, on the other hand....
            $endgroup$
            – WhatRoughBeast
            2 hours ago












            $begingroup$
            @WhatRoughBeast it would not be the first time a British person has thought of using a tank.m.youtube.com/watch?v=PD6qdzQvHhE
            $endgroup$
            – Sarriesfan
            50 mins ago




            $begingroup$
            @WhatRoughBeast it would not be the first time a British person has thought of using a tank.m.youtube.com/watch?v=PD6qdzQvHhE
            $endgroup$
            – Sarriesfan
            50 mins ago




            1




            1




            $begingroup$
            What happens when two people have the same idea and a two tanks end up playing chicken?
            $endgroup$
            – Rob
            10 mins ago




            $begingroup$
            What happens when two people have the same idea and a two tanks end up playing chicken?
            $endgroup$
            – Rob
            10 mins ago












            $begingroup$
            The primary problem with this idea is when everybody uses it.
            $endgroup$
            – Joshua
            4 mins ago




            $begingroup$
            The primary problem with this idea is when everybody uses it.
            $endgroup$
            – Joshua
            4 mins ago











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            Contrary to popular belief, more trafic laws makes roads less safe (1, 2). Many places are now reducing the amount of signs to make it safer, and to make sure that attention is on the road and other drivers rather than each other.



            No rules is taking that to the extreme, but its not completely unimagineable. Ever been to India? I have and it's true: they do not pay attention to any markings on the road or any signs. The only rule they semi-follow is what side of the road they drive on, but whenever the traffic allows that rule is out of the window too. Strangely enough, driving there felt like one of the safest experiences I've had as people constantly communicate with horns and their movement, but I hadnt experienced a situation where there wasnt adequate time to react and safely get through.



            So if a leftists leaves the house and he finds himself encountering rightists he'll join them for the time being, or vice versa. Any intersection that cannot be overseen will be slowly approached in case someone from another direction comes at you. Similar to small roads or similar people will decide on the spot who will pass first and who will move aside, or in this case chose who will temporarily change being a leftist or rightist.



            In the end the best car isnt going to be the smallest or the biggest, it's going to be the most visible one with the clearest communication of direction and intent, possibly with a set of horns declaring "watchout", "you go ahead" and "I go ahead". So keep those lights on your car in good working order, strap in and drive safe.



            (1) https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/feb/04/removal-road-markings-safer-fewer-accidents-drivers
            (2) https://www.drivingtests.co.nz/resources/signage-clutter-what-is-it-and-how-is-it-reduced/






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            • $begingroup$
              "more trafic laws makes roads less safe" - but not from 0. There is some amount of laws that's optimal. Problem is - lawmakers tend to make more to avoid feeling useless ;)
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              – Mołot
              32 mins ago










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              @Molot yes, thats why I said "No rules takes that to the extreme".
              $endgroup$
              – Demigan
              11 mins ago
















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            $begingroup$

            Contrary to popular belief, more trafic laws makes roads less safe (1, 2). Many places are now reducing the amount of signs to make it safer, and to make sure that attention is on the road and other drivers rather than each other.



            No rules is taking that to the extreme, but its not completely unimagineable. Ever been to India? I have and it's true: they do not pay attention to any markings on the road or any signs. The only rule they semi-follow is what side of the road they drive on, but whenever the traffic allows that rule is out of the window too. Strangely enough, driving there felt like one of the safest experiences I've had as people constantly communicate with horns and their movement, but I hadnt experienced a situation where there wasnt adequate time to react and safely get through.



            So if a leftists leaves the house and he finds himself encountering rightists he'll join them for the time being, or vice versa. Any intersection that cannot be overseen will be slowly approached in case someone from another direction comes at you. Similar to small roads or similar people will decide on the spot who will pass first and who will move aside, or in this case chose who will temporarily change being a leftist or rightist.



            In the end the best car isnt going to be the smallest or the biggest, it's going to be the most visible one with the clearest communication of direction and intent, possibly with a set of horns declaring "watchout", "you go ahead" and "I go ahead". So keep those lights on your car in good working order, strap in and drive safe.



            (1) https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/feb/04/removal-road-markings-safer-fewer-accidents-drivers
            (2) https://www.drivingtests.co.nz/resources/signage-clutter-what-is-it-and-how-is-it-reduced/






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            • $begingroup$
              "more trafic laws makes roads less safe" - but not from 0. There is some amount of laws that's optimal. Problem is - lawmakers tend to make more to avoid feeling useless ;)
              $endgroup$
              – Mołot
              32 mins ago










            • $begingroup$
              @Molot yes, thats why I said "No rules takes that to the extreme".
              $endgroup$
              – Demigan
              11 mins ago














            1












            1








            1





            $begingroup$

            Contrary to popular belief, more trafic laws makes roads less safe (1, 2). Many places are now reducing the amount of signs to make it safer, and to make sure that attention is on the road and other drivers rather than each other.



            No rules is taking that to the extreme, but its not completely unimagineable. Ever been to India? I have and it's true: they do not pay attention to any markings on the road or any signs. The only rule they semi-follow is what side of the road they drive on, but whenever the traffic allows that rule is out of the window too. Strangely enough, driving there felt like one of the safest experiences I've had as people constantly communicate with horns and their movement, but I hadnt experienced a situation where there wasnt adequate time to react and safely get through.



            So if a leftists leaves the house and he finds himself encountering rightists he'll join them for the time being, or vice versa. Any intersection that cannot be overseen will be slowly approached in case someone from another direction comes at you. Similar to small roads or similar people will decide on the spot who will pass first and who will move aside, or in this case chose who will temporarily change being a leftist or rightist.



            In the end the best car isnt going to be the smallest or the biggest, it's going to be the most visible one with the clearest communication of direction and intent, possibly with a set of horns declaring "watchout", "you go ahead" and "I go ahead". So keep those lights on your car in good working order, strap in and drive safe.



            (1) https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/feb/04/removal-road-markings-safer-fewer-accidents-drivers
            (2) https://www.drivingtests.co.nz/resources/signage-clutter-what-is-it-and-how-is-it-reduced/






            share|improve this answer









            $endgroup$



            Contrary to popular belief, more trafic laws makes roads less safe (1, 2). Many places are now reducing the amount of signs to make it safer, and to make sure that attention is on the road and other drivers rather than each other.



            No rules is taking that to the extreme, but its not completely unimagineable. Ever been to India? I have and it's true: they do not pay attention to any markings on the road or any signs. The only rule they semi-follow is what side of the road they drive on, but whenever the traffic allows that rule is out of the window too. Strangely enough, driving there felt like one of the safest experiences I've had as people constantly communicate with horns and their movement, but I hadnt experienced a situation where there wasnt adequate time to react and safely get through.



            So if a leftists leaves the house and he finds himself encountering rightists he'll join them for the time being, or vice versa. Any intersection that cannot be overseen will be slowly approached in case someone from another direction comes at you. Similar to small roads or similar people will decide on the spot who will pass first and who will move aside, or in this case chose who will temporarily change being a leftist or rightist.



            In the end the best car isnt going to be the smallest or the biggest, it's going to be the most visible one with the clearest communication of direction and intent, possibly with a set of horns declaring "watchout", "you go ahead" and "I go ahead". So keep those lights on your car in good working order, strap in and drive safe.



            (1) https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/feb/04/removal-road-markings-safer-fewer-accidents-drivers
            (2) https://www.drivingtests.co.nz/resources/signage-clutter-what-is-it-and-how-is-it-reduced/







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            • $begingroup$
              "more trafic laws makes roads less safe" - but not from 0. There is some amount of laws that's optimal. Problem is - lawmakers tend to make more to avoid feeling useless ;)
              $endgroup$
              – Mołot
              32 mins ago










            • $begingroup$
              @Molot yes, thats why I said "No rules takes that to the extreme".
              $endgroup$
              – Demigan
              11 mins ago


















            • $begingroup$
              "more trafic laws makes roads less safe" - but not from 0. There is some amount of laws that's optimal. Problem is - lawmakers tend to make more to avoid feeling useless ;)
              $endgroup$
              – Mołot
              32 mins ago










            • $begingroup$
              @Molot yes, thats why I said "No rules takes that to the extreme".
              $endgroup$
              – Demigan
              11 mins ago
















            $begingroup$
            "more trafic laws makes roads less safe" - but not from 0. There is some amount of laws that's optimal. Problem is - lawmakers tend to make more to avoid feeling useless ;)
            $endgroup$
            – Mołot
            32 mins ago




            $begingroup$
            "more trafic laws makes roads less safe" - but not from 0. There is some amount of laws that's optimal. Problem is - lawmakers tend to make more to avoid feeling useless ;)
            $endgroup$
            – Mołot
            32 mins ago












            $begingroup$
            @Molot yes, thats why I said "No rules takes that to the extreme".
            $endgroup$
            – Demigan
            11 mins ago




            $begingroup$
            @Molot yes, thats why I said "No rules takes that to the extreme".
            $endgroup$
            – Demigan
            11 mins ago


















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