What is the biblical basis for the historicity of the Bible?
That same professor who brought this question and this question is at it again. His claim is that the Bible doesn't claim to be a historical account because the thought that one can look to history as an accurate account of what happened doesn't come about until the Enlightenment.
The general argument is that the Bible is a vehicle for a theological message that may have used a historical detail here or there to make it more plausible. I'm investigating the specific claim that the Bible itself does not claim to be historically accurate. My question is what biblical basis there is to claim the Bible is an account of history. Does the Bible claim to be historically accurate (or is there something in the Bible that someone could reasonably interpret as a statement to that effect)?
A verse like 2 Timothy 3:16 would not work, as its claim isn't about anything more than theological and moral value:
All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,
This question seems to embody everything I've found on this topic so far. Rather than addressing whether the Bible itself explicitly claims to be historically accurate, they go right to defending the historicity of Scripture with outside sources and textual analysis of the stories. Is there a claim to historicity in the Bible?
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That same professor who brought this question and this question is at it again. His claim is that the Bible doesn't claim to be a historical account because the thought that one can look to history as an accurate account of what happened doesn't come about until the Enlightenment.
The general argument is that the Bible is a vehicle for a theological message that may have used a historical detail here or there to make it more plausible. I'm investigating the specific claim that the Bible itself does not claim to be historically accurate. My question is what biblical basis there is to claim the Bible is an account of history. Does the Bible claim to be historically accurate (or is there something in the Bible that someone could reasonably interpret as a statement to that effect)?
A verse like 2 Timothy 3:16 would not work, as its claim isn't about anything more than theological and moral value:
All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,
This question seems to embody everything I've found on this topic so far. Rather than addressing whether the Bible itself explicitly claims to be historically accurate, they go right to defending the historicity of Scripture with outside sources and textual analysis of the stories. Is there a claim to historicity in the Bible?
biblical-basis apologetics historical-jesus
asked 2 hours ago
ZenonZenon
1,14311030
What department/classes does this professor teach?
– Alex Strasser
1 hour ago
@AlexStrasser To put it briefly, he teaches history, but considers himself an expert on the Bible and also teaches a class on the Bible. He also incorporates the Bible into his other courses. I'd rather have this discussion in a chat room, as there's more to say on it than is appropriate for the comments section. chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/88376/…
– Zenon
59 mins ago
add a comment |
That same professor who brought this question and this question is at it again. His claim is that the Bible doesn't claim to be a historical account because the thought that one can look to history as an accurate account of what happened doesn't come about until the Enlightenment.
The general argument is that the Bible is a vehicle for a theological message that may have used a historical detail here or there to make it more plausible. I'm investigating the specific claim that the Bible itself does not claim to be historically accurate. My question is what biblical basis there is to claim the Bible is an account of history. Does the Bible claim to be historically accurate (or is there something in the Bible that someone could reasonably interpret as a statement to that effect)?
A verse like 2 Timothy 3:16 would not work, as its claim isn't about anything more than theological and moral value:
All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,
This question seems to embody everything I've found on this topic so far. Rather than addressing whether the Bible itself explicitly claims to be historically accurate, they go right to defending the historicity of Scripture with outside sources and textual analysis of the stories. Is there a claim to historicity in the Bible?
biblical-basis apologetics historical-jesus
asked 2 hours ago
ZenonZenon
1,14311030
That same professor who brought this question and this question is at it again. His claim is that the Bible doesn't claim to be a historical account because the thought that one can look to history as an accurate account of what happened doesn't come about until the Enlightenment.
The general argument is that the Bible is a vehicle for a theological message that may have used a historical detail here or there to make it more plausible. I'm investigating the specific claim that the Bible itself does not claim to be historically accurate. My question is what biblical basis there is to claim the Bible is an account of history. Does the Bible claim to be historically accurate (or is there something in the Bible that someone could reasonably interpret as a statement to that effect)?
A verse like 2 Timothy 3:16 would not work, as its claim isn't about anything more than theological and moral value:
All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,
This question seems to embody everything I've found on this topic so far. Rather than addressing whether the Bible itself explicitly claims to be historically accurate, they go right to defending the historicity of Scripture with outside sources and textual analysis of the stories. Is there a claim to historicity in the Bible?
biblical-basis apologetics historical-jesus
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What department/classes does this professor teach?
– Alex Strasser
1 hour ago
@AlexStrasser To put it briefly, he teaches history, but considers himself an expert on the Bible and also teaches a class on the Bible. He also incorporates the Bible into his other courses. I'd rather have this discussion in a chat room, as there's more to say on it than is appropriate for the comments section. chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/88376/…
– Zenon
59 mins ago
add a comment |
What department/classes does this professor teach?
– Alex Strasser
1 hour ago
@AlexStrasser To put it briefly, he teaches history, but considers himself an expert on the Bible and also teaches a class on the Bible. He also incorporates the Bible into his other courses. I'd rather have this discussion in a chat room, as there's more to say on it than is appropriate for the comments section. chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/88376/…
– Zenon
59 mins ago
What department/classes does this professor teach?
– Alex Strasser
1 hour ago
What department/classes does this professor teach?
– Alex Strasser
1 hour ago
@AlexStrasser To put it briefly, he teaches history, but considers himself an expert on the Bible and also teaches a class on the Bible. He also incorporates the Bible into his other courses. I'd rather have this discussion in a chat room, as there's more to say on it than is appropriate for the comments section. chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/88376/…
– Zenon
59 mins ago
@AlexStrasser To put it briefly, he teaches history, but considers himself an expert on the Bible and also teaches a class on the Bible. He also incorporates the Bible into his other courses. I'd rather have this discussion in a chat room, as there's more to say on it than is appropriate for the comments section. chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/88376/…
– Zenon
59 mins ago
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That professor hasn't read the Bible, apparently.
Luke 1:1-4 (my translation)
Inasmuch as many have undertaken to compose a narrative of the things which have taken place among us, (even as it was handed on to us by those who were eyewitnesses from the beginning, and those who tended to [the matter of preserving] an account), it seemed good to me also, having followed all things closely from the beginning, to write to you an orderly account, most excellent Theophilus, that you might know the verity of the things that have been told you.
Luke even uses the adjective ακριβως (accurately; closely; scrupulously). Luke claims his Gospel is an accurate history of Jesus.
answered 1 hour ago
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I can't believe I forgot about that one. Thank you.
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That professor hasn't read the Bible, apparently.
Luke 1:1-4 (my translation)
Inasmuch as many have undertaken to compose a narrative of the things which have taken place among us, (even as it was handed on to us by those who were eyewitnesses from the beginning, and those who tended to [the matter of preserving] an account), it seemed good to me also, having followed all things closely from the beginning, to write to you an orderly account, most excellent Theophilus, that you might know the verity of the things that have been told you.
Luke even uses the adjective ακριβως (accurately; closely; scrupulously). Luke claims his Gospel is an accurate history of Jesus.
answered 1 hour ago
Sola GratiaSola Gratia
3,161819
I can't believe I forgot about that one. Thank you.
– Zenon
1 hour ago
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That professor hasn't read the Bible, apparently.
Luke 1:1-4 (my translation)
Inasmuch as many have undertaken to compose a narrative of the things which have taken place among us, (even as it was handed on to us by those who were eyewitnesses from the beginning, and those who tended to [the matter of preserving] an account), it seemed good to me also, having followed all things closely from the beginning, to write to you an orderly account, most excellent Theophilus, that you might know the verity of the things that have been told you.
Luke even uses the adjective ακριβως (accurately; closely; scrupulously). Luke claims his Gospel is an accurate history of Jesus.
answered 1 hour ago
Sola GratiaSola Gratia
3,161819
I can't believe I forgot about that one. Thank you.
– Zenon
1 hour ago
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That professor hasn't read the Bible, apparently.
Luke 1:1-4 (my translation)
Inasmuch as many have undertaken to compose a narrative of the things which have taken place among us, (even as it was handed on to us by those who were eyewitnesses from the beginning, and those who tended to [the matter of preserving] an account), it seemed good to me also, having followed all things closely from the beginning, to write to you an orderly account, most excellent Theophilus, that you might know the verity of the things that have been told you.
Luke even uses the adjective ακριβως (accurately; closely; scrupulously). Luke claims his Gospel is an accurate history of Jesus.
answered 1 hour ago
Sola GratiaSola Gratia
3,161819
That professor hasn't read the Bible, apparently.
Luke 1:1-4 (my translation)
Inasmuch as many have undertaken to compose a narrative of the things which have taken place among us, (even as it was handed on to us by those who were eyewitnesses from the beginning, and those who tended to [the matter of preserving] an account), it seemed good to me also, having followed all things closely from the beginning, to write to you an orderly account, most excellent Theophilus, that you might know the verity of the things that have been told you.
Luke even uses the adjective ακριβως (accurately; closely; scrupulously). Luke claims his Gospel is an accurate history of Jesus.
answered 1 hour ago
Sola GratiaSola Gratia
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I can't believe I forgot about that one. Thank you.
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I can't believe I forgot about that one. Thank you.
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I can't believe I forgot about that one. Thank you.
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What department/classes does this professor teach?
– Alex Strasser
1 hour ago
@AlexStrasser To put it briefly, he teaches history, but considers himself an expert on the Bible and also teaches a class on the Bible. He also incorporates the Bible into his other courses. I'd rather have this discussion in a chat room, as there's more to say on it than is appropriate for the comments section. chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/88376/…
– Zenon
59 mins ago