Does Brexit deal being voted down involve that Brexit is not going to happen?
Just looking at TV and I am seeing that British Parliament rejected Brexit deal (cannot find an online source yet for this, although multiple source shown this vote result as very plausible).
Does this mean that Brexit is not going to happen or is this only one of the possible scenarios in the near future?
An answer to this question is interesting especially when UK can legally cancel the Brexit process.
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Just looking at TV and I am seeing that British Parliament rejected Brexit deal (cannot find an online source yet for this, although multiple source shown this vote result as very plausible).
Does this mean that Brexit is not going to happen or is this only one of the possible scenarios in the near future?
An answer to this question is interesting especially when UK can legally cancel the Brexit process.
united-kingdom brexit parliament
I've voted to close this as off-topic because you're asking about the broad spectrum of future events that may fall out from the vote on the plan. There branch cases for what could now happen with brexit are multitudinous.
– Drunk Cynic
1 hour ago
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@DrunkCynic - I am asking if Parliament's decision involves (logically / legally) that Brexit is not going to happen or there are many other possibilities. Your comment suggests that the answer to my question is: no, this does not mean that Brexit process is automatically cancelled.
– Alexei
1 hour ago
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Just looking at TV and I am seeing that British Parliament rejected Brexit deal (cannot find an online source yet for this, although multiple source shown this vote result as very plausible).
Does this mean that Brexit is not going to happen or is this only one of the possible scenarios in the near future?
An answer to this question is interesting especially when UK can legally cancel the Brexit process.
united-kingdom brexit parliament
Just looking at TV and I am seeing that British Parliament rejected Brexit deal (cannot find an online source yet for this, although multiple source shown this vote result as very plausible).
Does this mean that Brexit is not going to happen or is this only one of the possible scenarios in the near future?
An answer to this question is interesting especially when UK can legally cancel the Brexit process.
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I've voted to close this as off-topic because you're asking about the broad spectrum of future events that may fall out from the vote on the plan. There branch cases for what could now happen with brexit are multitudinous.
– Drunk Cynic
1 hour ago
1
@DrunkCynic - I am asking if Parliament's decision involves (logically / legally) that Brexit is not going to happen or there are many other possibilities. Your comment suggests that the answer to my question is: no, this does not mean that Brexit process is automatically cancelled.
– Alexei
1 hour ago
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I've voted to close this as off-topic because you're asking about the broad spectrum of future events that may fall out from the vote on the plan. There branch cases for what could now happen with brexit are multitudinous.
– Drunk Cynic
1 hour ago
1
@DrunkCynic - I am asking if Parliament's decision involves (logically / legally) that Brexit is not going to happen or there are many other possibilities. Your comment suggests that the answer to my question is: no, this does not mean that Brexit process is automatically cancelled.
– Alexei
1 hour ago
I've voted to close this as off-topic because you're asking about the broad spectrum of future events that may fall out from the vote on the plan. There branch cases for what could now happen with brexit are multitudinous.
– Drunk Cynic
1 hour ago
I've voted to close this as off-topic because you're asking about the broad spectrum of future events that may fall out from the vote on the plan. There branch cases for what could now happen with brexit are multitudinous.
– Drunk Cynic
1 hour ago
1
1
@DrunkCynic - I am asking if Parliament's decision involves (logically / legally) that Brexit is not going to happen or there are many other possibilities. Your comment suggests that the answer to my question is: no, this does not mean that Brexit process is automatically cancelled.
– Alexei
1 hour ago
@DrunkCynic - I am asking if Parliament's decision involves (logically / legally) that Brexit is not going to happen or there are many other possibilities. Your comment suggests that the answer to my question is: no, this does not mean that Brexit process is automatically cancelled.
– Alexei
1 hour ago
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Parliament has already voted on Article 50 and Article 50 has already been invoked. If nothing else happens between now and March 29th, EU membership ends for the UK. That was the case whether this vote took place or not. So that's the simplest answer with what is known to factually and legally in place at this time. Anything else borders on wild speculation.
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Assuming a government can be formed after tomorrows' vote of no confidence or the the vote fails. Under the recent amendment controversially allowed by the speaker the prime minister will be required to go back to the house with a new plan or plans for consideration. with that said the PM may still try to continue with a version of the current arrangement.
The following options exist
- Brexit is delayed until a deal can be reached that parliament can agree on (or for as long as the EU will allow it if they will at all).
- No agreement will be reached and the UK will leave the EU on the 29th of march. Note this is currently the default position.
- Parliament will pass a bill to withdraw article 50 and the UK will reamain in the EU (IMO it seems like this might happen so that brexit can be retried with more proper understanding of what is possible etc)
- Parliament will eventually agree to the current deal (given the scale of the defeat this may be unlikely)
In order to reach one of the above there may well be a referendum either considering no deal brexit v the current deal or no deal brexit v the current deal v remain. There may also be a general election if the vote of no confidence is successful.
I believe it would still be possible, as another option that, there is another vote instead of Parliament deciding.
– Karlomanio
32 mins ago
There is a fifth option that somehow a whole new withdrawal is negotiated before 11pm (UK time) on the 29th and voted through by parliament. This is almost certainly cloudcuckooland, but it might just be conceivable for a government of national unity with different red lines than Mrs May's administration.
– origimbo
22 mins ago
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No, it does not. Under the European Union (Withdrawal) Act, 2018, the UK will still leave the EU on 29 March at 23:00 GMT. Only a further Act of Parliament to amend it will change this, and as of this writing, there is currently no Bill active in the Commons to do this.
It might be worth referring to the specific "meaningful vote" section of the act (section 13) as well.
– origimbo
12 mins ago
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Parliament has already voted on Article 50 and Article 50 has already been invoked. If nothing else happens between now and March 29th, EU membership ends for the UK. That was the case whether this vote took place or not. So that's the simplest answer with what is known to factually and legally in place at this time. Anything else borders on wild speculation.
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Parliament has already voted on Article 50 and Article 50 has already been invoked. If nothing else happens between now and March 29th, EU membership ends for the UK. That was the case whether this vote took place or not. So that's the simplest answer with what is known to factually and legally in place at this time. Anything else borders on wild speculation.
add a comment |
Parliament has already voted on Article 50 and Article 50 has already been invoked. If nothing else happens between now and March 29th, EU membership ends for the UK. That was the case whether this vote took place or not. So that's the simplest answer with what is known to factually and legally in place at this time. Anything else borders on wild speculation.
Parliament has already voted on Article 50 and Article 50 has already been invoked. If nothing else happens between now and March 29th, EU membership ends for the UK. That was the case whether this vote took place or not. So that's the simplest answer with what is known to factually and legally in place at this time. Anything else borders on wild speculation.
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Assuming a government can be formed after tomorrows' vote of no confidence or the the vote fails. Under the recent amendment controversially allowed by the speaker the prime minister will be required to go back to the house with a new plan or plans for consideration. with that said the PM may still try to continue with a version of the current arrangement.
The following options exist
- Brexit is delayed until a deal can be reached that parliament can agree on (or for as long as the EU will allow it if they will at all).
- No agreement will be reached and the UK will leave the EU on the 29th of march. Note this is currently the default position.
- Parliament will pass a bill to withdraw article 50 and the UK will reamain in the EU (IMO it seems like this might happen so that brexit can be retried with more proper understanding of what is possible etc)
- Parliament will eventually agree to the current deal (given the scale of the defeat this may be unlikely)
In order to reach one of the above there may well be a referendum either considering no deal brexit v the current deal or no deal brexit v the current deal v remain. There may also be a general election if the vote of no confidence is successful.
I believe it would still be possible, as another option that, there is another vote instead of Parliament deciding.
– Karlomanio
32 mins ago
There is a fifth option that somehow a whole new withdrawal is negotiated before 11pm (UK time) on the 29th and voted through by parliament. This is almost certainly cloudcuckooland, but it might just be conceivable for a government of national unity with different red lines than Mrs May's administration.
– origimbo
22 mins ago
add a comment |
Assuming a government can be formed after tomorrows' vote of no confidence or the the vote fails. Under the recent amendment controversially allowed by the speaker the prime minister will be required to go back to the house with a new plan or plans for consideration. with that said the PM may still try to continue with a version of the current arrangement.
The following options exist
- Brexit is delayed until a deal can be reached that parliament can agree on (or for as long as the EU will allow it if they will at all).
- No agreement will be reached and the UK will leave the EU on the 29th of march. Note this is currently the default position.
- Parliament will pass a bill to withdraw article 50 and the UK will reamain in the EU (IMO it seems like this might happen so that brexit can be retried with more proper understanding of what is possible etc)
- Parliament will eventually agree to the current deal (given the scale of the defeat this may be unlikely)
In order to reach one of the above there may well be a referendum either considering no deal brexit v the current deal or no deal brexit v the current deal v remain. There may also be a general election if the vote of no confidence is successful.
I believe it would still be possible, as another option that, there is another vote instead of Parliament deciding.
– Karlomanio
32 mins ago
There is a fifth option that somehow a whole new withdrawal is negotiated before 11pm (UK time) on the 29th and voted through by parliament. This is almost certainly cloudcuckooland, but it might just be conceivable for a government of national unity with different red lines than Mrs May's administration.
– origimbo
22 mins ago
add a comment |
Assuming a government can be formed after tomorrows' vote of no confidence or the the vote fails. Under the recent amendment controversially allowed by the speaker the prime minister will be required to go back to the house with a new plan or plans for consideration. with that said the PM may still try to continue with a version of the current arrangement.
The following options exist
- Brexit is delayed until a deal can be reached that parliament can agree on (or for as long as the EU will allow it if they will at all).
- No agreement will be reached and the UK will leave the EU on the 29th of march. Note this is currently the default position.
- Parliament will pass a bill to withdraw article 50 and the UK will reamain in the EU (IMO it seems like this might happen so that brexit can be retried with more proper understanding of what is possible etc)
- Parliament will eventually agree to the current deal (given the scale of the defeat this may be unlikely)
In order to reach one of the above there may well be a referendum either considering no deal brexit v the current deal or no deal brexit v the current deal v remain. There may also be a general election if the vote of no confidence is successful.
Assuming a government can be formed after tomorrows' vote of no confidence or the the vote fails. Under the recent amendment controversially allowed by the speaker the prime minister will be required to go back to the house with a new plan or plans for consideration. with that said the PM may still try to continue with a version of the current arrangement.
The following options exist
- Brexit is delayed until a deal can be reached that parliament can agree on (or for as long as the EU will allow it if they will at all).
- No agreement will be reached and the UK will leave the EU on the 29th of march. Note this is currently the default position.
- Parliament will pass a bill to withdraw article 50 and the UK will reamain in the EU (IMO it seems like this might happen so that brexit can be retried with more proper understanding of what is possible etc)
- Parliament will eventually agree to the current deal (given the scale of the defeat this may be unlikely)
In order to reach one of the above there may well be a referendum either considering no deal brexit v the current deal or no deal brexit v the current deal v remain. There may also be a general election if the vote of no confidence is successful.
answered 1 hour ago
Steve SmithSteve Smith
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I believe it would still be possible, as another option that, there is another vote instead of Parliament deciding.
– Karlomanio
32 mins ago
There is a fifth option that somehow a whole new withdrawal is negotiated before 11pm (UK time) on the 29th and voted through by parliament. This is almost certainly cloudcuckooland, but it might just be conceivable for a government of national unity with different red lines than Mrs May's administration.
– origimbo
22 mins ago
add a comment |
I believe it would still be possible, as another option that, there is another vote instead of Parliament deciding.
– Karlomanio
32 mins ago
There is a fifth option that somehow a whole new withdrawal is negotiated before 11pm (UK time) on the 29th and voted through by parliament. This is almost certainly cloudcuckooland, but it might just be conceivable for a government of national unity with different red lines than Mrs May's administration.
– origimbo
22 mins ago
I believe it would still be possible, as another option that, there is another vote instead of Parliament deciding.
– Karlomanio
32 mins ago
I believe it would still be possible, as another option that, there is another vote instead of Parliament deciding.
– Karlomanio
32 mins ago
There is a fifth option that somehow a whole new withdrawal is negotiated before 11pm (UK time) on the 29th and voted through by parliament. This is almost certainly cloudcuckooland, but it might just be conceivable for a government of national unity with different red lines than Mrs May's administration.
– origimbo
22 mins ago
There is a fifth option that somehow a whole new withdrawal is negotiated before 11pm (UK time) on the 29th and voted through by parliament. This is almost certainly cloudcuckooland, but it might just be conceivable for a government of national unity with different red lines than Mrs May's administration.
– origimbo
22 mins ago
add a comment |
No, it does not. Under the European Union (Withdrawal) Act, 2018, the UK will still leave the EU on 29 March at 23:00 GMT. Only a further Act of Parliament to amend it will change this, and as of this writing, there is currently no Bill active in the Commons to do this.
It might be worth referring to the specific "meaningful vote" section of the act (section 13) as well.
– origimbo
12 mins ago
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No, it does not. Under the European Union (Withdrawal) Act, 2018, the UK will still leave the EU on 29 March at 23:00 GMT. Only a further Act of Parliament to amend it will change this, and as of this writing, there is currently no Bill active in the Commons to do this.
It might be worth referring to the specific "meaningful vote" section of the act (section 13) as well.
– origimbo
12 mins ago
add a comment |
No, it does not. Under the European Union (Withdrawal) Act, 2018, the UK will still leave the EU on 29 March at 23:00 GMT. Only a further Act of Parliament to amend it will change this, and as of this writing, there is currently no Bill active in the Commons to do this.
No, it does not. Under the European Union (Withdrawal) Act, 2018, the UK will still leave the EU on 29 March at 23:00 GMT. Only a further Act of Parliament to amend it will change this, and as of this writing, there is currently no Bill active in the Commons to do this.
answered 29 mins ago
Joe CJoe C
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It might be worth referring to the specific "meaningful vote" section of the act (section 13) as well.
– origimbo
12 mins ago
add a comment |
It might be worth referring to the specific "meaningful vote" section of the act (section 13) as well.
– origimbo
12 mins ago
It might be worth referring to the specific "meaningful vote" section of the act (section 13) as well.
– origimbo
12 mins ago
It might be worth referring to the specific "meaningful vote" section of the act (section 13) as well.
– origimbo
12 mins ago
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I've voted to close this as off-topic because you're asking about the broad spectrum of future events that may fall out from the vote on the plan. There branch cases for what could now happen with brexit are multitudinous.
– Drunk Cynic
1 hour ago
1
@DrunkCynic - I am asking if Parliament's decision involves (logically / legally) that Brexit is not going to happen or there are many other possibilities. Your comment suggests that the answer to my question is: no, this does not mean that Brexit process is automatically cancelled.
– Alexei
1 hour ago