When is a Lebesgue integrable function a Riemann integrable function?












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When is a Lebesgue integrable function a Riemann integrable function ?



And if we have $fin mathcal{L}^1([0,1],lambda)$, does it implies that $f$ is Riemann integrable, and why ?










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    When is a Lebesgue integrable function a Riemann integrable function ?



    And if we have $fin mathcal{L}^1([0,1],lambda)$, does it implies that $f$ is Riemann integrable, and why ?










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      When is a Lebesgue integrable function a Riemann integrable function ?



      And if we have $fin mathcal{L}^1([0,1],lambda)$, does it implies that $f$ is Riemann integrable, and why ?










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      When is a Lebesgue integrable function a Riemann integrable function ?



      And if we have $fin mathcal{L}^1([0,1],lambda)$, does it implies that $f$ is Riemann integrable, and why ?







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          No, it doesn't.



          It was proven by Lebesgue that a bounded function $f$ is Riemann integrable precisely when the set of points where $f$ is discontinuous has measure zero.






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            So in what case we can go from lebesgue inegral to reimann integral ? When do we have $int_{a}^{b}f(x)dx=int_{[a,b]}fdlambda$ for a Lebesgue integrable function $f$
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            @AnasBOUALII Precisely when - as this answer says - the set of discontinuities of $f$ has measure zero. Is there something unsatisfying about this?
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            – Noah Schweber
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            But does every Lebesgue integrable function is a.e continious and bounded ?
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            No, of course not. In your setup, the function $1_{mathbb Q}$, the characteristic of the rationals, is everywhere discontinuous. And $f(x)=tfrac1{sqrt x},1_{mathbb Q}$ is unbounded, everywhere discontinuous, and still in $L^1[0,1]$.
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            – Martin Argerami
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            @bof: yes. My example was about a Lebesgue measurable function which is not Riemann integrable.
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          This is the Riemann-Lebesgue Theorem, which says that $f$ is Riemann integrable if and only if the set of discontinuity points is of measure zero.



          Note that $1_{mathbb{Q}}$ (the indicator of the rationals) is Lebesgue-integrable but not Riemann integrable. On $[0,1]$ it is almost everywhere bounded but not continuous. Here, the set of discontinuity points is of measure $1$. So we cannot say anything about continuity and Lebesgue integrability (except that every continuous function on a set of finite measure is Lebesgue-integrable).






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            No, it doesn't.



            It was proven by Lebesgue that a bounded function $f$ is Riemann integrable precisely when the set of points where $f$ is discontinuous has measure zero.






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            • $begingroup$
              So in what case we can go from lebesgue inegral to reimann integral ? When do we have $int_{a}^{b}f(x)dx=int_{[a,b]}fdlambda$ for a Lebesgue integrable function $f$
              $endgroup$
              – Anas BOUALII
              2 hours ago












            • $begingroup$
              @AnasBOUALII Precisely when - as this answer says - the set of discontinuities of $f$ has measure zero. Is there something unsatisfying about this?
              $endgroup$
              – Noah Schweber
              2 hours ago












            • $begingroup$
              But does every Lebesgue integrable function is a.e continious and bounded ?
              $endgroup$
              – Anas BOUALII
              2 hours ago










            • $begingroup$
              No, of course not. In your setup, the function $1_{mathbb Q}$, the characteristic of the rationals, is everywhere discontinuous. And $f(x)=tfrac1{sqrt x},1_{mathbb Q}$ is unbounded, everywhere discontinuous, and still in $L^1[0,1]$.
              $endgroup$
              – Martin Argerami
              2 hours ago










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              @bof: yes. My example was about a Lebesgue measurable function which is not Riemann integrable.
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              – Martin Argerami
              2 hours ago
















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            $begingroup$

            No, it doesn't.



            It was proven by Lebesgue that a bounded function $f$ is Riemann integrable precisely when the set of points where $f$ is discontinuous has measure zero.






            share|cite|improve this answer











            $endgroup$













            • $begingroup$
              So in what case we can go from lebesgue inegral to reimann integral ? When do we have $int_{a}^{b}f(x)dx=int_{[a,b]}fdlambda$ for a Lebesgue integrable function $f$
              $endgroup$
              – Anas BOUALII
              2 hours ago












            • $begingroup$
              @AnasBOUALII Precisely when - as this answer says - the set of discontinuities of $f$ has measure zero. Is there something unsatisfying about this?
              $endgroup$
              – Noah Schweber
              2 hours ago












            • $begingroup$
              But does every Lebesgue integrable function is a.e continious and bounded ?
              $endgroup$
              – Anas BOUALII
              2 hours ago










            • $begingroup$
              No, of course not. In your setup, the function $1_{mathbb Q}$, the characteristic of the rationals, is everywhere discontinuous. And $f(x)=tfrac1{sqrt x},1_{mathbb Q}$ is unbounded, everywhere discontinuous, and still in $L^1[0,1]$.
              $endgroup$
              – Martin Argerami
              2 hours ago










            • $begingroup$
              @bof: yes. My example was about a Lebesgue measurable function which is not Riemann integrable.
              $endgroup$
              – Martin Argerami
              2 hours ago














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            No, it doesn't.



            It was proven by Lebesgue that a bounded function $f$ is Riemann integrable precisely when the set of points where $f$ is discontinuous has measure zero.






            share|cite|improve this answer











            $endgroup$



            No, it doesn't.



            It was proven by Lebesgue that a bounded function $f$ is Riemann integrable precisely when the set of points where $f$ is discontinuous has measure zero.







            share|cite|improve this answer














            share|cite|improve this answer



            share|cite|improve this answer








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            • $begingroup$
              So in what case we can go from lebesgue inegral to reimann integral ? When do we have $int_{a}^{b}f(x)dx=int_{[a,b]}fdlambda$ for a Lebesgue integrable function $f$
              $endgroup$
              – Anas BOUALII
              2 hours ago












            • $begingroup$
              @AnasBOUALII Precisely when - as this answer says - the set of discontinuities of $f$ has measure zero. Is there something unsatisfying about this?
              $endgroup$
              – Noah Schweber
              2 hours ago












            • $begingroup$
              But does every Lebesgue integrable function is a.e continious and bounded ?
              $endgroup$
              – Anas BOUALII
              2 hours ago










            • $begingroup$
              No, of course not. In your setup, the function $1_{mathbb Q}$, the characteristic of the rationals, is everywhere discontinuous. And $f(x)=tfrac1{sqrt x},1_{mathbb Q}$ is unbounded, everywhere discontinuous, and still in $L^1[0,1]$.
              $endgroup$
              – Martin Argerami
              2 hours ago










            • $begingroup$
              @bof: yes. My example was about a Lebesgue measurable function which is not Riemann integrable.
              $endgroup$
              – Martin Argerami
              2 hours ago


















            • $begingroup$
              So in what case we can go from lebesgue inegral to reimann integral ? When do we have $int_{a}^{b}f(x)dx=int_{[a,b]}fdlambda$ for a Lebesgue integrable function $f$
              $endgroup$
              – Anas BOUALII
              2 hours ago












            • $begingroup$
              @AnasBOUALII Precisely when - as this answer says - the set of discontinuities of $f$ has measure zero. Is there something unsatisfying about this?
              $endgroup$
              – Noah Schweber
              2 hours ago












            • $begingroup$
              But does every Lebesgue integrable function is a.e continious and bounded ?
              $endgroup$
              – Anas BOUALII
              2 hours ago










            • $begingroup$
              No, of course not. In your setup, the function $1_{mathbb Q}$, the characteristic of the rationals, is everywhere discontinuous. And $f(x)=tfrac1{sqrt x},1_{mathbb Q}$ is unbounded, everywhere discontinuous, and still in $L^1[0,1]$.
              $endgroup$
              – Martin Argerami
              2 hours ago










            • $begingroup$
              @bof: yes. My example was about a Lebesgue measurable function which is not Riemann integrable.
              $endgroup$
              – Martin Argerami
              2 hours ago
















            $begingroup$
            So in what case we can go from lebesgue inegral to reimann integral ? When do we have $int_{a}^{b}f(x)dx=int_{[a,b]}fdlambda$ for a Lebesgue integrable function $f$
            $endgroup$
            – Anas BOUALII
            2 hours ago






            $begingroup$
            So in what case we can go from lebesgue inegral to reimann integral ? When do we have $int_{a}^{b}f(x)dx=int_{[a,b]}fdlambda$ for a Lebesgue integrable function $f$
            $endgroup$
            – Anas BOUALII
            2 hours ago














            $begingroup$
            @AnasBOUALII Precisely when - as this answer says - the set of discontinuities of $f$ has measure zero. Is there something unsatisfying about this?
            $endgroup$
            – Noah Schweber
            2 hours ago






            $begingroup$
            @AnasBOUALII Precisely when - as this answer says - the set of discontinuities of $f$ has measure zero. Is there something unsatisfying about this?
            $endgroup$
            – Noah Schweber
            2 hours ago














            $begingroup$
            But does every Lebesgue integrable function is a.e continious and bounded ?
            $endgroup$
            – Anas BOUALII
            2 hours ago




            $begingroup$
            But does every Lebesgue integrable function is a.e continious and bounded ?
            $endgroup$
            – Anas BOUALII
            2 hours ago












            $begingroup$
            No, of course not. In your setup, the function $1_{mathbb Q}$, the characteristic of the rationals, is everywhere discontinuous. And $f(x)=tfrac1{sqrt x},1_{mathbb Q}$ is unbounded, everywhere discontinuous, and still in $L^1[0,1]$.
            $endgroup$
            – Martin Argerami
            2 hours ago




            $begingroup$
            No, of course not. In your setup, the function $1_{mathbb Q}$, the characteristic of the rationals, is everywhere discontinuous. And $f(x)=tfrac1{sqrt x},1_{mathbb Q}$ is unbounded, everywhere discontinuous, and still in $L^1[0,1]$.
            $endgroup$
            – Martin Argerami
            2 hours ago












            $begingroup$
            @bof: yes. My example was about a Lebesgue measurable function which is not Riemann integrable.
            $endgroup$
            – Martin Argerami
            2 hours ago




            $begingroup$
            @bof: yes. My example was about a Lebesgue measurable function which is not Riemann integrable.
            $endgroup$
            – Martin Argerami
            2 hours ago











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            This is the Riemann-Lebesgue Theorem, which says that $f$ is Riemann integrable if and only if the set of discontinuity points is of measure zero.



            Note that $1_{mathbb{Q}}$ (the indicator of the rationals) is Lebesgue-integrable but not Riemann integrable. On $[0,1]$ it is almost everywhere bounded but not continuous. Here, the set of discontinuity points is of measure $1$. So we cannot say anything about continuity and Lebesgue integrability (except that every continuous function on a set of finite measure is Lebesgue-integrable).






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              This is the Riemann-Lebesgue Theorem, which says that $f$ is Riemann integrable if and only if the set of discontinuity points is of measure zero.



              Note that $1_{mathbb{Q}}$ (the indicator of the rationals) is Lebesgue-integrable but not Riemann integrable. On $[0,1]$ it is almost everywhere bounded but not continuous. Here, the set of discontinuity points is of measure $1$. So we cannot say anything about continuity and Lebesgue integrability (except that every continuous function on a set of finite measure is Lebesgue-integrable).






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                This is the Riemann-Lebesgue Theorem, which says that $f$ is Riemann integrable if and only if the set of discontinuity points is of measure zero.



                Note that $1_{mathbb{Q}}$ (the indicator of the rationals) is Lebesgue-integrable but not Riemann integrable. On $[0,1]$ it is almost everywhere bounded but not continuous. Here, the set of discontinuity points is of measure $1$. So we cannot say anything about continuity and Lebesgue integrability (except that every continuous function on a set of finite measure is Lebesgue-integrable).






                share|cite|improve this answer









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                This is the Riemann-Lebesgue Theorem, which says that $f$ is Riemann integrable if and only if the set of discontinuity points is of measure zero.



                Note that $1_{mathbb{Q}}$ (the indicator of the rationals) is Lebesgue-integrable but not Riemann integrable. On $[0,1]$ it is almost everywhere bounded but not continuous. Here, the set of discontinuity points is of measure $1$. So we cannot say anything about continuity and Lebesgue integrability (except that every continuous function on a set of finite measure is Lebesgue-integrable).







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