Why are phone calls cylindrical?
何本か重要な電話をかけ、...
He made several important phone calls and ...
Originally part of this question but separated due to popular? demand.
Why is the counter 本 used in reference to phone calls?
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何本か重要な電話をかけ、...
He made several important phone calls and ...
Originally part of this question but separated due to popular? demand.
Why is the counter 本 used in reference to phone calls?
etymology history counters
edited 2 hours ago
Mathieu Bouville
50314
asked 8 hours ago
user3856370user3856370
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If you ever encountered a teenage girl, you would know that phone calls can be very loooong. (This said they can be very flat too.)
– Mathieu Bouville
5 hours ago
leo.aichi-u.ac.jp/~jiten/pdf/word-vol4/01.pdf
– droooze
50 mins ago
You might need to forget about "cylindrical" for a moment. 本 has much wider usage as a counter.
– l'électeur
11 mins ago
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何本か重要な電話をかけ、...
He made several important phone calls and ...
Originally part of this question but separated due to popular? demand.
Why is the counter 本 used in reference to phone calls?
etymology history counters
edited 2 hours ago
Mathieu Bouville
50314
asked 8 hours ago
user3856370user3856370
13.7k51864
何本か重要な電話をかけ、...
He made several important phone calls and ...
Originally part of this question but separated due to popular? demand.
Why is the counter 本 used in reference to phone calls?
etymology history counters
etymology history counters
edited 2 hours ago
Mathieu Bouville
50314
asked 8 hours ago
user3856370user3856370
13.7k51864
edited 2 hours ago
Mathieu Bouville
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user3856370user3856370
13.7k51864
edited 2 hours ago
Mathieu Bouville
50314
edited 2 hours ago
Mathieu Bouville
50314
edited 2 hours ago
Mathieu Bouville
50314
50314
asked 8 hours ago
user3856370user3856370
13.7k51864
asked 8 hours ago
user3856370user3856370
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asked 8 hours ago
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13.7k51864
If you ever encountered a teenage girl, you would know that phone calls can be very loooong. (This said they can be very flat too.)
– Mathieu Bouville
5 hours ago
leo.aichi-u.ac.jp/~jiten/pdf/word-vol4/01.pdf
– droooze
50 mins ago
You might need to forget about "cylindrical" for a moment. 本 has much wider usage as a counter.
– l'électeur
11 mins ago
add a comment |
If you ever encountered a teenage girl, you would know that phone calls can be very loooong. (This said they can be very flat too.)
– Mathieu Bouville
5 hours ago
leo.aichi-u.ac.jp/~jiten/pdf/word-vol4/01.pdf
– droooze
50 mins ago
You might need to forget about "cylindrical" for a moment. 本 has much wider usage as a counter.
– l'électeur
11 mins ago
If you ever encountered a teenage girl, you would know that phone calls can be very loooong. (This said they can be very flat too.)
– Mathieu Bouville
5 hours ago
If you ever encountered a teenage girl, you would know that phone calls can be very loooong. (This said they can be very flat too.)
– Mathieu Bouville
5 hours ago
leo.aichi-u.ac.jp/~jiten/pdf/word-vol4/01.pdf
– droooze
50 mins ago
leo.aichi-u.ac.jp/~jiten/pdf/word-vol4/01.pdf
– droooze
50 mins ago
You might need to forget about "cylindrical" for a moment. 本 has much wider usage as a counter.
– l'électeur
11 mins ago
You might need to forget about "cylindrical" for a moment. 本 has much wider usage as a counter.
– l'électeur
11 mins ago
add a comment |
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To be fair, 本 ＝ 「細長いもの」is a really popular explanation (note that is does not imply anything about being round, I think that it is an usual extrapolation due to the fact that physical objects that are long and thin are usually cylindrical).
But many usages actually go against this explanation, or a least do not fall into that classification. Consider the following examples:
- 子どもたちに三本のゲームを買ってきた。
- 彼は三本の新しい企画に取り組んだ。
- 今年は三本のコンサートに行ったよ。
As you can see, you really need to stretch your mind really far to find the thin, long thing here. At least I cannot find them...
I've made some quick research on the topic and there appears to be academical research on that topic (!). Like this one, where they distinguish 6 clusters of words to which 本 applies to.
(for the case of the phone, the "message" coming from letter thing seems plausible though.)
answered 2 hours ago
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Does THIS answer your question?
Seems that there are a number of possible explanations though...
Parts of the phone, or the phone itself were cylindrical
Voice was transmitted via wires (long and thin)
The idea of a "message" where a written letter would be rolled up into a cylinder (letter -> telegraph -> telephone)
answered 8 hours ago
sazarandosazarando
5,095720
+1 Looks convincing. I'll wait to see if anyone has other thoughts before accepting though.
– user3856370
8 hours ago
えっ、わかんない、、、なんで？
– Chocolate♦
8 hours ago
@Chocolate Well I assumed the reasoning was that the old-style phone has lots of cylindrical components.
– user3856370
8 hours ago
受話器もスピーカーも筒形でしょ？
– sazarando
8 hours ago
3
え・・そこ？ 回線を使ってるからかな？と思ってた・・ 電報も「一本」だし。。
– Chocolate♦
7 hours ago
|
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From the point of view of an operator facing a switchboard, the number of calls is the number of wires plugged in. (Like everyone else, I am just trying to guess.)
answered 5 hours ago
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To be fair, 本 ＝ 「細長いもの」is a really popular explanation (note that is does not imply anything about being round, I think that it is an usual extrapolation due to the fact that physical objects that are long and thin are usually cylindrical).
But many usages actually go against this explanation, or a least do not fall into that classification. Consider the following examples:
- 子どもたちに三本のゲームを買ってきた。
- 彼は三本の新しい企画に取り組んだ。
- 今年は三本のコンサートに行ったよ。
As you can see, you really need to stretch your mind really far to find the thin, long thing here. At least I cannot find them...
I've made some quick research on the topic and there appears to be academical research on that topic (!). Like this one, where they distinguish 6 clusters of words to which 本 applies to.
(for the case of the phone, the "message" coming from letter thing seems plausible though.)
answered 2 hours ago
Nicolas CouvratNicolas Couvrat
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To be fair, 本 ＝ 「細長いもの」is a really popular explanation (note that is does not imply anything about being round, I think that it is an usual extrapolation due to the fact that physical objects that are long and thin are usually cylindrical).
But many usages actually go against this explanation, or a least do not fall into that classification. Consider the following examples:
- 子どもたちに三本のゲームを買ってきた。
- 彼は三本の新しい企画に取り組んだ。
- 今年は三本のコンサートに行ったよ。
As you can see, you really need to stretch your mind really far to find the thin, long thing here. At least I cannot find them...
I've made some quick research on the topic and there appears to be academical research on that topic (!). Like this one, where they distinguish 6 clusters of words to which 本 applies to.
(for the case of the phone, the "message" coming from letter thing seems plausible though.)
answered 2 hours ago
Nicolas CouvratNicolas Couvrat
612
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To be fair, 本 ＝ 「細長いもの」is a really popular explanation (note that is does not imply anything about being round, I think that it is an usual extrapolation due to the fact that physical objects that are long and thin are usually cylindrical).
But many usages actually go against this explanation, or a least do not fall into that classification. Consider the following examples:
- 子どもたちに三本のゲームを買ってきた。
- 彼は三本の新しい企画に取り組んだ。
- 今年は三本のコンサートに行ったよ。
As you can see, you really need to stretch your mind really far to find the thin, long thing here. At least I cannot find them...
I've made some quick research on the topic and there appears to be academical research on that topic (!). Like this one, where they distinguish 6 clusters of words to which 本 applies to.
(for the case of the phone, the "message" coming from letter thing seems plausible though.)
answered 2 hours ago
Nicolas CouvratNicolas Couvrat
612
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To be fair, 本 ＝ 「細長いもの」is a really popular explanation (note that is does not imply anything about being round, I think that it is an usual extrapolation due to the fact that physical objects that are long and thin are usually cylindrical).
But many usages actually go against this explanation, or a least do not fall into that classification. Consider the following examples:
- 子どもたちに三本のゲームを買ってきた。
- 彼は三本の新しい企画に取り組んだ。
- 今年は三本のコンサートに行ったよ。
As you can see, you really need to stretch your mind really far to find the thin, long thing here. At least I cannot find them...
I've made some quick research on the topic and there appears to be academical research on that topic (!). Like this one, where they distinguish 6 clusters of words to which 本 applies to.
(for the case of the phone, the "message" coming from letter thing seems plausible though.)
answered 2 hours ago
Nicolas CouvratNicolas Couvrat
612
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answered 2 hours ago
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answered 2 hours ago
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answered 2 hours ago
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Does THIS answer your question?
Seems that there are a number of possible explanations though...
Parts of the phone, or the phone itself were cylindrical
Voice was transmitted via wires (long and thin)
The idea of a "message" where a written letter would be rolled up into a cylinder (letter -> telegraph -> telephone)
answered 8 hours ago
sazarandosazarando
5,095720
+1 Looks convincing. I'll wait to see if anyone has other thoughts before accepting though.
– user3856370
8 hours ago
えっ、わかんない、、、なんで？
– Chocolate♦
8 hours ago
@Chocolate Well I assumed the reasoning was that the old-style phone has lots of cylindrical components.
– user3856370
8 hours ago
受話器もスピーカーも筒形でしょ？
– sazarando
8 hours ago
3
え・・そこ？ 回線を使ってるからかな？と思ってた・・ 電報も「一本」だし。。
– Chocolate♦
7 hours ago
|
show 4 more comments
Does THIS answer your question?
Seems that there are a number of possible explanations though...
Parts of the phone, or the phone itself were cylindrical
Voice was transmitted via wires (long and thin)
The idea of a "message" where a written letter would be rolled up into a cylinder (letter -> telegraph -> telephone)
answered 8 hours ago
sazarandosazarando
5,095720
+1 Looks convincing. I'll wait to see if anyone has other thoughts before accepting though.
– user3856370
8 hours ago
えっ、わかんない、、、なんで？
– Chocolate♦
8 hours ago
@Chocolate Well I assumed the reasoning was that the old-style phone has lots of cylindrical components.
– user3856370
8 hours ago
受話器もスピーカーも筒形でしょ？
– sazarando
8 hours ago
3
え・・そこ？ 回線を使ってるからかな？と思ってた・・ 電報も「一本」だし。。
– Chocolate♦
7 hours ago
|
show 4 more comments
Does THIS answer your question?
Seems that there are a number of possible explanations though...
Parts of the phone, or the phone itself were cylindrical
Voice was transmitted via wires (long and thin)
The idea of a "message" where a written letter would be rolled up into a cylinder (letter -> telegraph -> telephone)
answered 8 hours ago
sazarandosazarando
5,095720
Does THIS answer your question?
Seems that there are a number of possible explanations though...
Parts of the phone, or the phone itself were cylindrical
Voice was transmitted via wires (long and thin)
The idea of a "message" where a written letter would be rolled up into a cylinder (letter -> telegraph -> telephone)
answered 8 hours ago
sazarandosazarando
5,095720
edited 7 hours ago
answered 8 hours ago
sazarandosazarando
5,095720
answered 8 hours ago
sazarandosazarando
5,095720
answered 8 hours ago
sazarandosazarando
5,095720
5,095720
+1 Looks convincing. I'll wait to see if anyone has other thoughts before accepting though.
– user3856370
8 hours ago
えっ、わかんない、、、なんで？
– Chocolate♦
8 hours ago
@Chocolate Well I assumed the reasoning was that the old-style phone has lots of cylindrical components.
– user3856370
8 hours ago
受話器もスピーカーも筒形でしょ？
– sazarando
8 hours ago
3
え・・そこ？ 回線を使ってるからかな？と思ってた・・ 電報も「一本」だし。。
– Chocolate♦
7 hours ago
|
show 4 more comments
+1 Looks convincing. I'll wait to see if anyone has other thoughts before accepting though.
– user3856370
8 hours ago
えっ、わかんない、、、なんで？
– Chocolate♦
8 hours ago
@Chocolate Well I assumed the reasoning was that the old-style phone has lots of cylindrical components.
– user3856370
8 hours ago
受話器もスピーカーも筒形でしょ？
– sazarando
8 hours ago
3
え・・そこ？ 回線を使ってるからかな？と思ってた・・ 電報も「一本」だし。。
– Chocolate♦
7 hours ago
+1 Looks convincing. I'll wait to see if anyone has other thoughts before accepting though.
– user3856370
8 hours ago
+1 Looks convincing. I'll wait to see if anyone has other thoughts before accepting though.
– user3856370
8 hours ago
えっ、わかんない、、、なんで？
– Chocolate♦
8 hours ago
えっ、わかんない、、、なんで？
– Chocolate♦
8 hours ago
@Chocolate Well I assumed the reasoning was that the old-style phone has lots of cylindrical components.
– user3856370
8 hours ago
@Chocolate Well I assumed the reasoning was that the old-style phone has lots of cylindrical components.
– user3856370
8 hours ago
受話器もスピーカーも筒形でしょ？
– sazarando
8 hours ago
受話器もスピーカーも筒形でしょ？
– sazarando
8 hours ago
3
3
え・・そこ？ 回線を使ってるからかな？と思ってた・・ 電報も「一本」だし。。
– Chocolate♦
7 hours ago
え・・そこ？ 回線を使ってるからかな？と思ってた・・ 電報も「一本」だし。。
– Chocolate♦
7 hours ago
|
show 4 more comments
From the point of view of an operator facing a switchboard, the number of calls is the number of wires plugged in. (Like everyone else, I am just trying to guess.)
answered 5 hours ago
Mathieu BouvilleMathieu Bouville
50314
add a comment |
From the point of view of an operator facing a switchboard, the number of calls is the number of wires plugged in. (Like everyone else, I am just trying to guess.)
answered 5 hours ago
Mathieu BouvilleMathieu Bouville
50314
add a comment |
From the point of view of an operator facing a switchboard, the number of calls is the number of wires plugged in. (Like everyone else, I am just trying to guess.)
answered 5 hours ago
Mathieu BouvilleMathieu Bouville
50314
From the point of view of an operator facing a switchboard, the number of calls is the number of wires plugged in. (Like everyone else, I am just trying to guess.)
answered 5 hours ago
Mathieu BouvilleMathieu Bouville
50314
answered 5 hours ago
Mathieu BouvilleMathieu Bouville
50314
answered 5 hours ago
Mathieu BouvilleMathieu Bouville
50314
answered 5 hours ago
Mathieu BouvilleMathieu Bouville
50314
50314
add a comment |
add a comment |
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If you ever encountered a teenage girl, you would know that phone calls can be very loooong. (This said they can be very flat too.)
– Mathieu Bouville
5 hours ago
leo.aichi-u.ac.jp/~jiten/pdf/word-vol4/01.pdf
– droooze
50 mins ago
You might need to forget about "cylindrical" for a moment. 本 has much wider usage as a counter.
– l'électeur
11 mins ago