Is it correct to say the field of complex numbers is contained in the field of quaternions?












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I believe it is correct to refer to the complex numbers and their 'native algebra' as a field. See for example Linear Algebra and Matrix Theory, by Evar Nering. I assume the same may be said for the set of quaternions. Please correct me if that is wrong.



Based on that assumption, I ask: is the field of complex numbers a subset (sub-field?) of the quaternions in the same sense that the real numbers are 'contained' in the complex numbers?



Is there a term for such a subordination of number fields?



I admit that I am reaching well beyond my realm of familiarity, and that my question may be nonsensical to those who are more knowledgeable in these matters.






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    I'm guessing you actually meant to ask whether the complex field can be embedded in the (Hamilton) quaternions $;Bbb H;$ . Now, this last is a divison ring, or a non-commutative "integral domain" (very cautious with this as integral domains' definition usually carries commutativity as conditon), sometimes also named "as skew-field, whereas $;Bbb C;$ is commutative...so you need an embedding into the center of $;Bbb H;$ : what is it?
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    Yes and no : $mathbb{C}$ is a field and $mathbb{H}$ is a skew-field, containing many copies of $mathbb{C}$ (but only one copy of $mathbb{R}$), $mathbb{H}$ is a non-commutative $mathbb{R}$-algebra with defining relations $j^2 = -1, zj = joverline{z}, z in mathbb{C}$ so it is not a $mathbb{C}$-algebra. In this sense it extends $mathbb{R}$, not $mathbb{C}$.
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I believe it is correct to refer to the complex numbers and their 'native algebra' as a field. See for example Linear Algebra and Matrix Theory, by Evar Nering. I assume the same may be said for the set of quaternions. Please correct me if that is wrong.



Based on that assumption, I ask: is the field of complex numbers a subset (sub-field?) of the quaternions in the same sense that the real numbers are 'contained' in the complex numbers?



Is there a term for such a subordination of number fields?



I admit that I am reaching well beyond my realm of familiarity, and that my question may be nonsensical to those who are more knowledgeable in these matters.






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    I'm guessing you actually meant to ask whether the complex field can be embedded in the (Hamilton) quaternions $;Bbb H;$ . Now, this last is a divison ring, or a non-commutative "integral domain" (very cautious with this as integral domains' definition usually carries commutativity as conditon), sometimes also named "as skew-field, whereas $;Bbb C;$ is commutative...so you need an embedding into the center of $;Bbb H;$ : what is it?
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    Yes and no : $mathbb{C}$ is a field and $mathbb{H}$ is a skew-field, containing many copies of $mathbb{C}$ (but only one copy of $mathbb{R}$), $mathbb{H}$ is a non-commutative $mathbb{R}$-algebra with defining relations $j^2 = -1, zj = joverline{z}, z in mathbb{C}$ so it is not a $mathbb{C}$-algebra. In this sense it extends $mathbb{R}$, not $mathbb{C}$.
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I believe it is correct to refer to the complex numbers and their 'native algebra' as a field. See for example Linear Algebra and Matrix Theory, by Evar Nering. I assume the same may be said for the set of quaternions. Please correct me if that is wrong.



Based on that assumption, I ask: is the field of complex numbers a subset (sub-field?) of the quaternions in the same sense that the real numbers are 'contained' in the complex numbers?



Is there a term for such a subordination of number fields?



I admit that I am reaching well beyond my realm of familiarity, and that my question may be nonsensical to those who are more knowledgeable in these matters.






abstract-algebra complex-numbers definition quaternions







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I believe it is correct to refer to the complex numbers and their 'native algebra' as a field. See for example Linear Algebra and Matrix Theory, by Evar Nering. I assume the same may be said for the set of quaternions. Please correct me if that is wrong.



Based on that assumption, I ask: is the field of complex numbers a subset (sub-field?) of the quaternions in the same sense that the real numbers are 'contained' in the complex numbers?



Is there a term for such a subordination of number fields?



I admit that I am reaching well beyond my realm of familiarity, and that my question may be nonsensical to those who are more knowledgeable in these matters.






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    I'm guessing you actually meant to ask whether the complex field can be embedded in the (Hamilton) quaternions $;Bbb H;$ . Now, this last is a divison ring, or a non-commutative "integral domain" (very cautious with this as integral domains' definition usually carries commutativity as conditon), sometimes also named "as skew-field, whereas $;Bbb C;$ is commutative...so you need an embedding into the center of $;Bbb H;$ : what is it?
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    Yes and no : $mathbb{C}$ is a field and $mathbb{H}$ is a skew-field, containing many copies of $mathbb{C}$ (but only one copy of $mathbb{R}$), $mathbb{H}$ is a non-commutative $mathbb{R}$-algebra with defining relations $j^2 = -1, zj = joverline{z}, z in mathbb{C}$ so it is not a $mathbb{C}$-algebra. In this sense it extends $mathbb{R}$, not $mathbb{C}$.
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  • $begingroup$
    I'm guessing you actually meant to ask whether the complex field can be embedded in the (Hamilton) quaternions $;Bbb H;$ . Now, this last is a divison ring, or a non-commutative "integral domain" (very cautious with this as integral domains' definition usually carries commutativity as conditon), sometimes also named "as skew-field, whereas $;Bbb C;$ is commutative...so you need an embedding into the center of $;Bbb H;$ : what is it?
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    Yes and no : $mathbb{C}$ is a field and $mathbb{H}$ is a skew-field, containing many copies of $mathbb{C}$ (but only one copy of $mathbb{R}$), $mathbb{H}$ is a non-commutative $mathbb{R}$-algebra with defining relations $j^2 = -1, zj = joverline{z}, z in mathbb{C}$ so it is not a $mathbb{C}$-algebra. In this sense it extends $mathbb{R}$, not $mathbb{C}$.
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I'm guessing you actually meant to ask whether the complex field can be embedded in the (Hamilton) quaternions $;Bbb H;$ . Now, this last is a divison ring, or a non-commutative "integral domain" (very cautious with this as integral domains' definition usually carries commutativity as conditon), sometimes also named "as skew-field, whereas $;Bbb C;$ is commutative...so you need an embedding into the center of $;Bbb H;$ : what is it?
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I'm guessing you actually meant to ask whether the complex field can be embedded in the (Hamilton) quaternions $;Bbb H;$ . Now, this last is a divison ring, or a non-commutative "integral domain" (very cautious with this as integral domains' definition usually carries commutativity as conditon), sometimes also named "as skew-field, whereas $;Bbb C;$ is commutative...so you need an embedding into the center of $;Bbb H;$ : what is it?
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Yes and no : $mathbb{C}$ is a field and $mathbb{H}$ is a skew-field, containing many copies of $mathbb{C}$ (but only one copy of $mathbb{R}$), $mathbb{H}$ is a non-commutative $mathbb{R}$-algebra with defining relations $j^2 = -1, zj = joverline{z}, z in mathbb{C}$ so it is not a $mathbb{C}$-algebra. In this sense it extends $mathbb{R}$, not $mathbb{C}$.
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Yes and no : $mathbb{C}$ is a field and $mathbb{H}$ is a skew-field, containing many copies of $mathbb{C}$ (but only one copy of $mathbb{R}$), $mathbb{H}$ is a non-commutative $mathbb{R}$-algebra with defining relations $j^2 = -1, zj = joverline{z}, z in mathbb{C}$ so it is not a $mathbb{C}$-algebra. In this sense it extends $mathbb{R}$, not $mathbb{C}$.
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The field of complex numbers is isomorphic to a subfield of the division ring of the quaternions. Also, the field of complex numbers is isomorphic to a subfield of the complex field.



Whether or not we have subsets here depends on the way the complex numbers and the quaternions are defined.






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    The quaternion skew field ${Bbb H} = {Bbb C}times {Bbb C}$ has ${Bbb C}$ as a
    subfield by considering the ring monomorphism ${Bbb C}rightarrow {Bbb H}: zmapsto (z,0)$.






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      The ring of quaternions(it is not a field) contains infinitely many subrings that are fields and are isomorphic to the field of complex numbers.






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        The field of complex numbers is isomorphic to a subfield of the division ring of the quaternions. Also, the field of complex numbers is isomorphic to a subfield of the complex field.



        Whether or not we have subsets here depends on the way the complex numbers and the quaternions are defined.






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          The field of complex numbers is isomorphic to a subfield of the division ring of the quaternions. Also, the field of complex numbers is isomorphic to a subfield of the complex field.



          Whether or not we have subsets here depends on the way the complex numbers and the quaternions are defined.






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            $begingroup$

            The field of complex numbers is isomorphic to a subfield of the division ring of the quaternions. Also, the field of complex numbers is isomorphic to a subfield of the complex field.



            Whether or not we have subsets here depends on the way the complex numbers and the quaternions are defined.






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            The field of complex numbers is isomorphic to a subfield of the division ring of the quaternions. Also, the field of complex numbers is isomorphic to a subfield of the complex field.



            Whether or not we have subsets here depends on the way the complex numbers and the quaternions are defined.







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                The quaternion skew field ${Bbb H} = {Bbb C}times {Bbb C}$ has ${Bbb C}$ as a
                subfield by considering the ring monomorphism ${Bbb C}rightarrow {Bbb H}: zmapsto (z,0)$.






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                  The quaternion skew field ${Bbb H} = {Bbb C}times {Bbb C}$ has ${Bbb C}$ as a
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                    The quaternion skew field ${Bbb H} = {Bbb C}times {Bbb C}$ has ${Bbb C}$ as a
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                    The quaternion skew field ${Bbb H} = {Bbb C}times {Bbb C}$ has ${Bbb C}$ as a
                    subfield by considering the ring monomorphism ${Bbb C}rightarrow {Bbb H}: zmapsto (z,0)$.







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                        The ring of quaternions(it is not a field) contains infinitely many subrings that are fields and are isomorphic to the field of complex numbers.






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                          The ring of quaternions(it is not a field) contains infinitely many subrings that are fields and are isomorphic to the field of complex numbers.






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                            The ring of quaternions(it is not a field) contains infinitely many subrings that are fields and are isomorphic to the field of complex numbers.






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