What do I need to travel to London during the scheduled Brexit transition date? [on hold]
I'm a Belgian citizen. I'll be traveling to London from March 25th until March 31th included. I'll be working (following a training, actually) from March 25th until March 28th included, but will stay for tourism a few extra days to "live" the Brexit.
I'll be able to come to London as a European citizen using only my European ID card, but how will I need to leave? Do I need a passport or something similar? I plan to come and go with the Eurostar.
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I'm a Belgian citizen. I'll be traveling to London from March 25th until March 31th included. I'll be working (following a training, actually) from March 25th until March 28th included, but will stay for tourism a few extra days to "live" the Brexit.
I'll be able to come to London as a European citizen using only my European ID card, but how will I need to leave? Do I need a passport or something similar? I plan to come and go with the Eurostar.
uk paperwork event-based-effects brexit belgian-citizens
Post is related to a rapidly changing event.
put on hold as primarily opinion-based by David Richerby, Giorgio, Honorary World Citizen, Andrew Ferrier, JonathanReez♦ 3 mins ago
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I'm flagging the question as primarily opinion-based because of the general uncertainty surrounding Brexit at this time.
– Ewige Studentin
13 hours ago
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Nobody knows, so this is unanswerable.
– David Richerby
11 hours ago
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I can't agree with the suggestions that this question should be closed. The UK's Department for Exiting the European Union has published policy on this topic, and while I don't believe that policy has legal force at this time it's certainly valuable information for OP to be made aware of. Even without that published policy, "the rules in this situation aren't yet clear" is a perfectly valid and useful answer to a question (if that is indeed the case). If the rules are unclear, that is the answer to the question, not a reason to close the question.
– Chris H
9 hours ago
3
will stay for tourism a few extra days to "live" the Brexit, please avoid disaster tourism, at least until the dust has settled down.
– gerrit
9 hours ago
3
@KeithLoughnane FYI you don't need a passport at the moment. Almost all EU countries issue national identity cards which can be used for intra-EU travel.
– Aaron F
8 hours ago
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I'm a Belgian citizen. I'll be traveling to London from March 25th until March 31th included. I'll be working (following a training, actually) from March 25th until March 28th included, but will stay for tourism a few extra days to "live" the Brexit.
I'll be able to come to London as a European citizen using only my European ID card, but how will I need to leave? Do I need a passport or something similar? I plan to come and go with the Eurostar.
uk paperwork event-based-effects brexit belgian-citizens
I'm a Belgian citizen. I'll be traveling to London from March 25th until March 31th included. I'll be working (following a training, actually) from March 25th until March 28th included, but will stay for tourism a few extra days to "live" the Brexit.
I'll be able to come to London as a European citizen using only my European ID card, but how will I need to leave? Do I need a passport or something similar? I plan to come and go with the Eurostar.
uk paperwork event-based-effects brexit belgian-citizens
uk paperwork event-based-effects brexit belgian-citizens
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I'm flagging the question as primarily opinion-based because of the general uncertainty surrounding Brexit at this time.
– Ewige Studentin
13 hours ago
4
Nobody knows, so this is unanswerable.
– David Richerby
11 hours ago
19
I can't agree with the suggestions that this question should be closed. The UK's Department for Exiting the European Union has published policy on this topic, and while I don't believe that policy has legal force at this time it's certainly valuable information for OP to be made aware of. Even without that published policy, "the rules in this situation aren't yet clear" is a perfectly valid and useful answer to a question (if that is indeed the case). If the rules are unclear, that is the answer to the question, not a reason to close the question.
– Chris H
9 hours ago
3
will stay for tourism a few extra days to "live" the Brexit, please avoid disaster tourism, at least until the dust has settled down.
– gerrit
9 hours ago
3
@KeithLoughnane FYI you don't need a passport at the moment. Almost all EU countries issue national identity cards which can be used for intra-EU travel.
– Aaron F
8 hours ago
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I'm flagging the question as primarily opinion-based because of the general uncertainty surrounding Brexit at this time.
– Ewige Studentin
13 hours ago
4
Nobody knows, so this is unanswerable.
– David Richerby
11 hours ago
19
I can't agree with the suggestions that this question should be closed. The UK's Department for Exiting the European Union has published policy on this topic, and while I don't believe that policy has legal force at this time it's certainly valuable information for OP to be made aware of. Even without that published policy, "the rules in this situation aren't yet clear" is a perfectly valid and useful answer to a question (if that is indeed the case). If the rules are unclear, that is the answer to the question, not a reason to close the question.
– Chris H
9 hours ago
3
will stay for tourism a few extra days to "live" the Brexit, please avoid disaster tourism, at least until the dust has settled down.
– gerrit
9 hours ago
3
@KeithLoughnane FYI you don't need a passport at the moment. Almost all EU countries issue national identity cards which can be used for intra-EU travel.
– Aaron F
8 hours ago
4
4
I'm flagging the question as primarily opinion-based because of the general uncertainty surrounding Brexit at this time.
– Ewige Studentin
13 hours ago
I'm flagging the question as primarily opinion-based because of the general uncertainty surrounding Brexit at this time.
– Ewige Studentin
13 hours ago
4
4
Nobody knows, so this is unanswerable.
– David Richerby
11 hours ago
Nobody knows, so this is unanswerable.
– David Richerby
11 hours ago
19
19
I can't agree with the suggestions that this question should be closed. The UK's Department for Exiting the European Union has published policy on this topic, and while I don't believe that policy has legal force at this time it's certainly valuable information for OP to be made aware of. Even without that published policy, "the rules in this situation aren't yet clear" is a perfectly valid and useful answer to a question (if that is indeed the case). If the rules are unclear, that is the answer to the question, not a reason to close the question.
– Chris H
9 hours ago
I can't agree with the suggestions that this question should be closed. The UK's Department for Exiting the European Union has published policy on this topic, and while I don't believe that policy has legal force at this time it's certainly valuable information for OP to be made aware of. Even without that published policy, "the rules in this situation aren't yet clear" is a perfectly valid and useful answer to a question (if that is indeed the case). If the rules are unclear, that is the answer to the question, not a reason to close the question.
– Chris H
9 hours ago
3
3
will stay for tourism a few extra days to "live" the Brexit, please avoid disaster tourism, at least until the dust has settled down.
– gerrit
9 hours ago
will stay for tourism a few extra days to "live" the Brexit, please avoid disaster tourism, at least until the dust has settled down.
– gerrit
9 hours ago
3
3
@KeithLoughnane FYI you don't need a passport at the moment. Almost all EU countries issue national identity cards which can be used for intra-EU travel.
– Aaron F
8 hours ago
@KeithLoughnane FYI you don't need a passport at the moment. Almost all EU countries issue national identity cards which can be used for intra-EU travel.
– Aaron F
8 hours ago
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Nothing is certain about Brexit. May's deal which would have resulting in a transition period just got voted down in Parliament and Parliament are now talking about a confidence vote.
What I think can be said is.
The UK is not a country that normally gets in the business of stopping people from leaving. It doesn't even have government-run exit checks. If services are running and you have documentation that is acceptable to the destination of that service you will almost certainly be allowed to board. In other words if a direct service from the UK to other EU countries is running I would be extremely surprised if you were unable to board it using an EU national ID card.
The worry is whether services will be running at all. Most likely even in the event of a "no deal" brexit some sort of arrangement will be made to keep services running but until such an arrangement has been agreed and ratified on both sides it cannot be guaranteed.
If you insist on doing this and things don't become clearer before you leave for the trip then I would advice you bring your passport with you. You probably won't need it but it gives you options in the event that it is not possible to travel home directly.
2
Actually certain things are decided regarding no deal, including that EU IDs will "initially" remain valid for entry
– Crazydre
12 hours ago
3
While he doesn't explicitly state it the OP strongly implies he has and plans to travel on an EU national ID card.
– Peter Green
10 hours ago
4
I've not seen any plans to repeal the domestic free-movement law (the Immigration (EEA) Regulations 2016). Until those regulations are repealed, nationals of EU and Schengen countries and their family members will continue to enjoy a right of freedom of movement because it is granted by UK national law.
– phoog
8 hours ago
4
@EwigeStudentin the UK will probably end freedom of movement at some point unless it remains in the EU (or in the unlikely event that it leaves under terms that involve remaining in the free-movement regime). But freedom of movement will not end automatically on exit unless parliament changes existing law to make it so.
– phoog
7 hours ago
4
@phoog a very important aspect that is often missed in the discussions. The UK doesn't automatically cease to apply EU law on Mar 29th, it needs to actually repeal it.
– JonathanReez♦
5 hours ago
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It has been confirmed that, in a no-deal scenario, EU ID cards will remain valid for entry at least until 2021.
So just bring your ID card as usual.
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This answer would benefit greatly from a source backing it up. This policy paper is the best I can find (see para.13).
– Chris H
12 hours ago
1
The only country the OP is entering after Brexit is Belgium, his native country. And Belgium has no plans to leave the EU anytime soon.
– Abigail
11 hours ago
@ChrisH It's where I got it from
– Crazydre
9 hours ago
2
@Crazydre as far as I understand it, a policy paper is a statement of intent but has no legal force. It'd certainly be a surprise if things were to change on this front, but I'd not consider it "confirmed" on this basis.
– Chris H
9 hours ago
1
@ChrisH are you aware of any plans to repeal the Immigration (EEA) Regulations 2016 as of exit day? The withdrawal act explicitly provides that domestic legislation based on the European Communities Act 1972 will continue to have effect. Until the regulations are repealed, EU citizens continue to have a right of free movement in the UK because they are granted that right in domestic law.
– phoog
8 hours ago
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It’s quite amazing I am having to say this two months from the end of what was meant to be a two year period in which everything was sorted but…..nobody knows.
By default, if nothing further happens, then a 'no deal Brexit' is where the country is heading.
Though many of the more enthusiastic pro-brexit people like to say that this is all good and fine and anything bad about it is fear-mongering, as things stand at the moment it does look to cause quite a lot of disruption for travellers as nothing has yet been agreed on how UK air traffic control, airline safety checks, and immigration will fit in with the world following the elimination of most of Britain’s international agreements.
This is of course an absolute worst case. Even many of those openly calling for no deal don’t literally mean do no extra work and just leave without any agreements. Many of them fully recognise that we have to normalise our World Trade Organisation status for example (currently the UK cannot trade on WTO rules) and other common sense things like this.
I’d like to hope this worst case won’t happen. Given that a smooth orderly Brexit in March seems highly unlikely this probably means the whole thing being delayed.
But in these uncertain times… everything is a huge nobody knows.
Looking at the list of possible options and assuming all are equally likely then things remaining largely as they are for another few years at least and there being no disruption comes out on top.
But if the worst case comes to pass and the drawbridge is pulled up then there’s likely to be huge disruption for anyone flying in April. Even if the crazy legal situation of there being no basis for planes to fly is sorted within a week the airlines will take much longer than this to get their schedule straight again.
Since nobody knows it all depends how much of a gambler you are and what your personal predictions are for how things will go.
If you’re a pessimist then I wouldn’t risk booking a flight for summer at least.
If you’re an optimist then just live your life as you would if all this wasn’t happening.
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What if I am a realist?
– Peter verleg
9 hours ago
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Hope for the best but prepare for the worst. Keep an eye out to see if there are further developments which reduce or increase the risk. Always carry your passport when travelling internationally even if it's not strictly needed and make sure you have enough money to cover contingencies like being unable to travel at the planned time or on the planned route.
– Peter Green
9 hours ago
"following the elimination of most of Britain’s international agreements" Wasn't there some law passed soon after the Brexit vote which effectively turned all EU law into UK law in the UK, precisely to avoid disruption?
– a CVn
2 hours ago
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While the other answers talk about the official requirements I would add that you should be prepared for a lot of confusion in the days following Brexit. The official policy of Eurostar or an airline may not match actual border policy and to make matters worse the front line employees may not be following the policy of the company they work for. Individual border agents may not even be clear on the official requirements.
If at all possible bring a passport as it's your best bet to get home smoothly.
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Nothing is certain about Brexit. May's deal which would have resulting in a transition period just got voted down in Parliament and Parliament are now talking about a confidence vote.
What I think can be said is.
The UK is not a country that normally gets in the business of stopping people from leaving. It doesn't even have government-run exit checks. If services are running and you have documentation that is acceptable to the destination of that service you will almost certainly be allowed to board. In other words if a direct service from the UK to other EU countries is running I would be extremely surprised if you were unable to board it using an EU national ID card.
The worry is whether services will be running at all. Most likely even in the event of a "no deal" brexit some sort of arrangement will be made to keep services running but until such an arrangement has been agreed and ratified on both sides it cannot be guaranteed.
If you insist on doing this and things don't become clearer before you leave for the trip then I would advice you bring your passport with you. You probably won't need it but it gives you options in the event that it is not possible to travel home directly.
2
Actually certain things are decided regarding no deal, including that EU IDs will "initially" remain valid for entry
– Crazydre
12 hours ago
3
While he doesn't explicitly state it the OP strongly implies he has and plans to travel on an EU national ID card.
– Peter Green
10 hours ago
4
I've not seen any plans to repeal the domestic free-movement law (the Immigration (EEA) Regulations 2016). Until those regulations are repealed, nationals of EU and Schengen countries and their family members will continue to enjoy a right of freedom of movement because it is granted by UK national law.
– phoog
8 hours ago
4
@EwigeStudentin the UK will probably end freedom of movement at some point unless it remains in the EU (or in the unlikely event that it leaves under terms that involve remaining in the free-movement regime). But freedom of movement will not end automatically on exit unless parliament changes existing law to make it so.
– phoog
7 hours ago
4
@phoog a very important aspect that is often missed in the discussions. The UK doesn't automatically cease to apply EU law on Mar 29th, it needs to actually repeal it.
– JonathanReez♦
5 hours ago
|
show 5 more comments
Nothing is certain about Brexit. May's deal which would have resulting in a transition period just got voted down in Parliament and Parliament are now talking about a confidence vote.
What I think can be said is.
The UK is not a country that normally gets in the business of stopping people from leaving. It doesn't even have government-run exit checks. If services are running and you have documentation that is acceptable to the destination of that service you will almost certainly be allowed to board. In other words if a direct service from the UK to other EU countries is running I would be extremely surprised if you were unable to board it using an EU national ID card.
The worry is whether services will be running at all. Most likely even in the event of a "no deal" brexit some sort of arrangement will be made to keep services running but until such an arrangement has been agreed and ratified on both sides it cannot be guaranteed.
If you insist on doing this and things don't become clearer before you leave for the trip then I would advice you bring your passport with you. You probably won't need it but it gives you options in the event that it is not possible to travel home directly.
2
Actually certain things are decided regarding no deal, including that EU IDs will "initially" remain valid for entry
– Crazydre
12 hours ago
3
While he doesn't explicitly state it the OP strongly implies he has and plans to travel on an EU national ID card.
– Peter Green
10 hours ago
4
I've not seen any plans to repeal the domestic free-movement law (the Immigration (EEA) Regulations 2016). Until those regulations are repealed, nationals of EU and Schengen countries and their family members will continue to enjoy a right of freedom of movement because it is granted by UK national law.
– phoog
8 hours ago
4
@EwigeStudentin the UK will probably end freedom of movement at some point unless it remains in the EU (or in the unlikely event that it leaves under terms that involve remaining in the free-movement regime). But freedom of movement will not end automatically on exit unless parliament changes existing law to make it so.
– phoog
7 hours ago
4
@phoog a very important aspect that is often missed in the discussions. The UK doesn't automatically cease to apply EU law on Mar 29th, it needs to actually repeal it.
– JonathanReez♦
5 hours ago
|
show 5 more comments
Nothing is certain about Brexit. May's deal which would have resulting in a transition period just got voted down in Parliament and Parliament are now talking about a confidence vote.
What I think can be said is.
The UK is not a country that normally gets in the business of stopping people from leaving. It doesn't even have government-run exit checks. If services are running and you have documentation that is acceptable to the destination of that service you will almost certainly be allowed to board. In other words if a direct service from the UK to other EU countries is running I would be extremely surprised if you were unable to board it using an EU national ID card.
The worry is whether services will be running at all. Most likely even in the event of a "no deal" brexit some sort of arrangement will be made to keep services running but until such an arrangement has been agreed and ratified on both sides it cannot be guaranteed.
If you insist on doing this and things don't become clearer before you leave for the trip then I would advice you bring your passport with you. You probably won't need it but it gives you options in the event that it is not possible to travel home directly.
Nothing is certain about Brexit. May's deal which would have resulting in a transition period just got voted down in Parliament and Parliament are now talking about a confidence vote.
What I think can be said is.
The UK is not a country that normally gets in the business of stopping people from leaving. It doesn't even have government-run exit checks. If services are running and you have documentation that is acceptable to the destination of that service you will almost certainly be allowed to board. In other words if a direct service from the UK to other EU countries is running I would be extremely surprised if you were unable to board it using an EU national ID card.
The worry is whether services will be running at all. Most likely even in the event of a "no deal" brexit some sort of arrangement will be made to keep services running but until such an arrangement has been agreed and ratified on both sides it cannot be guaranteed.
If you insist on doing this and things don't become clearer before you leave for the trip then I would advice you bring your passport with you. You probably won't need it but it gives you options in the event that it is not possible to travel home directly.
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answered 12 hours ago
Peter GreenPeter Green
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Actually certain things are decided regarding no deal, including that EU IDs will "initially" remain valid for entry
– Crazydre
12 hours ago
3
While he doesn't explicitly state it the OP strongly implies he has and plans to travel on an EU national ID card.
– Peter Green
10 hours ago
4
I've not seen any plans to repeal the domestic free-movement law (the Immigration (EEA) Regulations 2016). Until those regulations are repealed, nationals of EU and Schengen countries and their family members will continue to enjoy a right of freedom of movement because it is granted by UK national law.
– phoog
8 hours ago
4
@EwigeStudentin the UK will probably end freedom of movement at some point unless it remains in the EU (or in the unlikely event that it leaves under terms that involve remaining in the free-movement regime). But freedom of movement will not end automatically on exit unless parliament changes existing law to make it so.
– phoog
7 hours ago
4
@phoog a very important aspect that is often missed in the discussions. The UK doesn't automatically cease to apply EU law on Mar 29th, it needs to actually repeal it.
– JonathanReez♦
5 hours ago
|
show 5 more comments
2
Actually certain things are decided regarding no deal, including that EU IDs will "initially" remain valid for entry
– Crazydre
12 hours ago
3
While he doesn't explicitly state it the OP strongly implies he has and plans to travel on an EU national ID card.
– Peter Green
10 hours ago
4
I've not seen any plans to repeal the domestic free-movement law (the Immigration (EEA) Regulations 2016). Until those regulations are repealed, nationals of EU and Schengen countries and their family members will continue to enjoy a right of freedom of movement because it is granted by UK national law.
– phoog
8 hours ago
4
@EwigeStudentin the UK will probably end freedom of movement at some point unless it remains in the EU (or in the unlikely event that it leaves under terms that involve remaining in the free-movement regime). But freedom of movement will not end automatically on exit unless parliament changes existing law to make it so.
– phoog
7 hours ago
4
@phoog a very important aspect that is often missed in the discussions. The UK doesn't automatically cease to apply EU law on Mar 29th, it needs to actually repeal it.
– JonathanReez♦
5 hours ago
2
2
Actually certain things are decided regarding no deal, including that EU IDs will "initially" remain valid for entry
– Crazydre
12 hours ago
Actually certain things are decided regarding no deal, including that EU IDs will "initially" remain valid for entry
– Crazydre
12 hours ago
3
3
While he doesn't explicitly state it the OP strongly implies he has and plans to travel on an EU national ID card.
– Peter Green
10 hours ago
While he doesn't explicitly state it the OP strongly implies he has and plans to travel on an EU national ID card.
– Peter Green
10 hours ago
4
4
I've not seen any plans to repeal the domestic free-movement law (the Immigration (EEA) Regulations 2016). Until those regulations are repealed, nationals of EU and Schengen countries and their family members will continue to enjoy a right of freedom of movement because it is granted by UK national law.
– phoog
8 hours ago
I've not seen any plans to repeal the domestic free-movement law (the Immigration (EEA) Regulations 2016). Until those regulations are repealed, nationals of EU and Schengen countries and their family members will continue to enjoy a right of freedom of movement because it is granted by UK national law.
– phoog
8 hours ago
4
4
@EwigeStudentin the UK will probably end freedom of movement at some point unless it remains in the EU (or in the unlikely event that it leaves under terms that involve remaining in the free-movement regime). But freedom of movement will not end automatically on exit unless parliament changes existing law to make it so.
– phoog
7 hours ago
@EwigeStudentin the UK will probably end freedom of movement at some point unless it remains in the EU (or in the unlikely event that it leaves under terms that involve remaining in the free-movement regime). But freedom of movement will not end automatically on exit unless parliament changes existing law to make it so.
– phoog
7 hours ago
4
4
@phoog a very important aspect that is often missed in the discussions. The UK doesn't automatically cease to apply EU law on Mar 29th, it needs to actually repeal it.
– JonathanReez♦
5 hours ago
@phoog a very important aspect that is often missed in the discussions. The UK doesn't automatically cease to apply EU law on Mar 29th, it needs to actually repeal it.
– JonathanReez♦
5 hours ago
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It has been confirmed that, in a no-deal scenario, EU ID cards will remain valid for entry at least until 2021.
So just bring your ID card as usual.
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This answer would benefit greatly from a source backing it up. This policy paper is the best I can find (see para.13).
– Chris H
12 hours ago
1
The only country the OP is entering after Brexit is Belgium, his native country. And Belgium has no plans to leave the EU anytime soon.
– Abigail
11 hours ago
@ChrisH It's where I got it from
– Crazydre
9 hours ago
2
@Crazydre as far as I understand it, a policy paper is a statement of intent but has no legal force. It'd certainly be a surprise if things were to change on this front, but I'd not consider it "confirmed" on this basis.
– Chris H
9 hours ago
1
@ChrisH are you aware of any plans to repeal the Immigration (EEA) Regulations 2016 as of exit day? The withdrawal act explicitly provides that domestic legislation based on the European Communities Act 1972 will continue to have effect. Until the regulations are repealed, EU citizens continue to have a right of free movement in the UK because they are granted that right in domestic law.
– phoog
8 hours ago
|
show 4 more comments
It has been confirmed that, in a no-deal scenario, EU ID cards will remain valid for entry at least until 2021.
So just bring your ID card as usual.
14
This answer would benefit greatly from a source backing it up. This policy paper is the best I can find (see para.13).
– Chris H
12 hours ago
1
The only country the OP is entering after Brexit is Belgium, his native country. And Belgium has no plans to leave the EU anytime soon.
– Abigail
11 hours ago
@ChrisH It's where I got it from
– Crazydre
9 hours ago
2
@Crazydre as far as I understand it, a policy paper is a statement of intent but has no legal force. It'd certainly be a surprise if things were to change on this front, but I'd not consider it "confirmed" on this basis.
– Chris H
9 hours ago
1
@ChrisH are you aware of any plans to repeal the Immigration (EEA) Regulations 2016 as of exit day? The withdrawal act explicitly provides that domestic legislation based on the European Communities Act 1972 will continue to have effect. Until the regulations are repealed, EU citizens continue to have a right of free movement in the UK because they are granted that right in domestic law.
– phoog
8 hours ago
|
show 4 more comments
It has been confirmed that, in a no-deal scenario, EU ID cards will remain valid for entry at least until 2021.
So just bring your ID card as usual.
It has been confirmed that, in a no-deal scenario, EU ID cards will remain valid for entry at least until 2021.
So just bring your ID card as usual.
answered 12 hours ago
CrazydreCrazydre
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This answer would benefit greatly from a source backing it up. This policy paper is the best I can find (see para.13).
– Chris H
12 hours ago
1
The only country the OP is entering after Brexit is Belgium, his native country. And Belgium has no plans to leave the EU anytime soon.
– Abigail
11 hours ago
@ChrisH It's where I got it from
– Crazydre
9 hours ago
2
@Crazydre as far as I understand it, a policy paper is a statement of intent but has no legal force. It'd certainly be a surprise if things were to change on this front, but I'd not consider it "confirmed" on this basis.
– Chris H
9 hours ago
1
@ChrisH are you aware of any plans to repeal the Immigration (EEA) Regulations 2016 as of exit day? The withdrawal act explicitly provides that domestic legislation based on the European Communities Act 1972 will continue to have effect. Until the regulations are repealed, EU citizens continue to have a right of free movement in the UK because they are granted that right in domestic law.
– phoog
8 hours ago
|
show 4 more comments
14
This answer would benefit greatly from a source backing it up. This policy paper is the best I can find (see para.13).
– Chris H
12 hours ago
1
The only country the OP is entering after Brexit is Belgium, his native country. And Belgium has no plans to leave the EU anytime soon.
– Abigail
11 hours ago
@ChrisH It's where I got it from
– Crazydre
9 hours ago
2
@Crazydre as far as I understand it, a policy paper is a statement of intent but has no legal force. It'd certainly be a surprise if things were to change on this front, but I'd not consider it "confirmed" on this basis.
– Chris H
9 hours ago
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@ChrisH are you aware of any plans to repeal the Immigration (EEA) Regulations 2016 as of exit day? The withdrawal act explicitly provides that domestic legislation based on the European Communities Act 1972 will continue to have effect. Until the regulations are repealed, EU citizens continue to have a right of free movement in the UK because they are granted that right in domestic law.
– phoog
8 hours ago
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This answer would benefit greatly from a source backing it up. This policy paper is the best I can find (see para.13).
– Chris H
12 hours ago
This answer would benefit greatly from a source backing it up. This policy paper is the best I can find (see para.13).
– Chris H
12 hours ago
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The only country the OP is entering after Brexit is Belgium, his native country. And Belgium has no plans to leave the EU anytime soon.
– Abigail
11 hours ago
The only country the OP is entering after Brexit is Belgium, his native country. And Belgium has no plans to leave the EU anytime soon.
– Abigail
11 hours ago
@ChrisH It's where I got it from
– Crazydre
9 hours ago
@ChrisH It's where I got it from
– Crazydre
9 hours ago
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@Crazydre as far as I understand it, a policy paper is a statement of intent but has no legal force. It'd certainly be a surprise if things were to change on this front, but I'd not consider it "confirmed" on this basis.
– Chris H
9 hours ago
@Crazydre as far as I understand it, a policy paper is a statement of intent but has no legal force. It'd certainly be a surprise if things were to change on this front, but I'd not consider it "confirmed" on this basis.
– Chris H
9 hours ago
1
1
@ChrisH are you aware of any plans to repeal the Immigration (EEA) Regulations 2016 as of exit day? The withdrawal act explicitly provides that domestic legislation based on the European Communities Act 1972 will continue to have effect. Until the regulations are repealed, EU citizens continue to have a right of free movement in the UK because they are granted that right in domestic law.
– phoog
8 hours ago
@ChrisH are you aware of any plans to repeal the Immigration (EEA) Regulations 2016 as of exit day? The withdrawal act explicitly provides that domestic legislation based on the European Communities Act 1972 will continue to have effect. Until the regulations are repealed, EU citizens continue to have a right of free movement in the UK because they are granted that right in domestic law.
– phoog
8 hours ago
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It’s quite amazing I am having to say this two months from the end of what was meant to be a two year period in which everything was sorted but…..nobody knows.
By default, if nothing further happens, then a 'no deal Brexit' is where the country is heading.
Though many of the more enthusiastic pro-brexit people like to say that this is all good and fine and anything bad about it is fear-mongering, as things stand at the moment it does look to cause quite a lot of disruption for travellers as nothing has yet been agreed on how UK air traffic control, airline safety checks, and immigration will fit in with the world following the elimination of most of Britain’s international agreements.
This is of course an absolute worst case. Even many of those openly calling for no deal don’t literally mean do no extra work and just leave without any agreements. Many of them fully recognise that we have to normalise our World Trade Organisation status for example (currently the UK cannot trade on WTO rules) and other common sense things like this.
I’d like to hope this worst case won’t happen. Given that a smooth orderly Brexit in March seems highly unlikely this probably means the whole thing being delayed.
But in these uncertain times… everything is a huge nobody knows.
Looking at the list of possible options and assuming all are equally likely then things remaining largely as they are for another few years at least and there being no disruption comes out on top.
But if the worst case comes to pass and the drawbridge is pulled up then there’s likely to be huge disruption for anyone flying in April. Even if the crazy legal situation of there being no basis for planes to fly is sorted within a week the airlines will take much longer than this to get their schedule straight again.
Since nobody knows it all depends how much of a gambler you are and what your personal predictions are for how things will go.
If you’re a pessimist then I wouldn’t risk booking a flight for summer at least.
If you’re an optimist then just live your life as you would if all this wasn’t happening.
2
What if I am a realist?
– Peter verleg
9 hours ago
3
Hope for the best but prepare for the worst. Keep an eye out to see if there are further developments which reduce or increase the risk. Always carry your passport when travelling internationally even if it's not strictly needed and make sure you have enough money to cover contingencies like being unable to travel at the planned time or on the planned route.
– Peter Green
9 hours ago
"following the elimination of most of Britain’s international agreements" Wasn't there some law passed soon after the Brexit vote which effectively turned all EU law into UK law in the UK, precisely to avoid disruption?
– a CVn
2 hours ago
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It’s quite amazing I am having to say this two months from the end of what was meant to be a two year period in which everything was sorted but…..nobody knows.
By default, if nothing further happens, then a 'no deal Brexit' is where the country is heading.
Though many of the more enthusiastic pro-brexit people like to say that this is all good and fine and anything bad about it is fear-mongering, as things stand at the moment it does look to cause quite a lot of disruption for travellers as nothing has yet been agreed on how UK air traffic control, airline safety checks, and immigration will fit in with the world following the elimination of most of Britain’s international agreements.
This is of course an absolute worst case. Even many of those openly calling for no deal don’t literally mean do no extra work and just leave without any agreements. Many of them fully recognise that we have to normalise our World Trade Organisation status for example (currently the UK cannot trade on WTO rules) and other common sense things like this.
I’d like to hope this worst case won’t happen. Given that a smooth orderly Brexit in March seems highly unlikely this probably means the whole thing being delayed.
But in these uncertain times… everything is a huge nobody knows.
Looking at the list of possible options and assuming all are equally likely then things remaining largely as they are for another few years at least and there being no disruption comes out on top.
But if the worst case comes to pass and the drawbridge is pulled up then there’s likely to be huge disruption for anyone flying in April. Even if the crazy legal situation of there being no basis for planes to fly is sorted within a week the airlines will take much longer than this to get their schedule straight again.
Since nobody knows it all depends how much of a gambler you are and what your personal predictions are for how things will go.
If you’re a pessimist then I wouldn’t risk booking a flight for summer at least.
If you’re an optimist then just live your life as you would if all this wasn’t happening.
2
What if I am a realist?
– Peter verleg
9 hours ago
3
Hope for the best but prepare for the worst. Keep an eye out to see if there are further developments which reduce or increase the risk. Always carry your passport when travelling internationally even if it's not strictly needed and make sure you have enough money to cover contingencies like being unable to travel at the planned time or on the planned route.
– Peter Green
9 hours ago
"following the elimination of most of Britain’s international agreements" Wasn't there some law passed soon after the Brexit vote which effectively turned all EU law into UK law in the UK, precisely to avoid disruption?
– a CVn
2 hours ago
add a comment |
It’s quite amazing I am having to say this two months from the end of what was meant to be a two year period in which everything was sorted but…..nobody knows.
By default, if nothing further happens, then a 'no deal Brexit' is where the country is heading.
Though many of the more enthusiastic pro-brexit people like to say that this is all good and fine and anything bad about it is fear-mongering, as things stand at the moment it does look to cause quite a lot of disruption for travellers as nothing has yet been agreed on how UK air traffic control, airline safety checks, and immigration will fit in with the world following the elimination of most of Britain’s international agreements.
This is of course an absolute worst case. Even many of those openly calling for no deal don’t literally mean do no extra work and just leave without any agreements. Many of them fully recognise that we have to normalise our World Trade Organisation status for example (currently the UK cannot trade on WTO rules) and other common sense things like this.
I’d like to hope this worst case won’t happen. Given that a smooth orderly Brexit in March seems highly unlikely this probably means the whole thing being delayed.
But in these uncertain times… everything is a huge nobody knows.
Looking at the list of possible options and assuming all are equally likely then things remaining largely as they are for another few years at least and there being no disruption comes out on top.
But if the worst case comes to pass and the drawbridge is pulled up then there’s likely to be huge disruption for anyone flying in April. Even if the crazy legal situation of there being no basis for planes to fly is sorted within a week the airlines will take much longer than this to get their schedule straight again.
Since nobody knows it all depends how much of a gambler you are and what your personal predictions are for how things will go.
If you’re a pessimist then I wouldn’t risk booking a flight for summer at least.
If you’re an optimist then just live your life as you would if all this wasn’t happening.
It’s quite amazing I am having to say this two months from the end of what was meant to be a two year period in which everything was sorted but…..nobody knows.
By default, if nothing further happens, then a 'no deal Brexit' is where the country is heading.
Though many of the more enthusiastic pro-brexit people like to say that this is all good and fine and anything bad about it is fear-mongering, as things stand at the moment it does look to cause quite a lot of disruption for travellers as nothing has yet been agreed on how UK air traffic control, airline safety checks, and immigration will fit in with the world following the elimination of most of Britain’s international agreements.
This is of course an absolute worst case. Even many of those openly calling for no deal don’t literally mean do no extra work and just leave without any agreements. Many of them fully recognise that we have to normalise our World Trade Organisation status for example (currently the UK cannot trade on WTO rules) and other common sense things like this.
I’d like to hope this worst case won’t happen. Given that a smooth orderly Brexit in March seems highly unlikely this probably means the whole thing being delayed.
But in these uncertain times… everything is a huge nobody knows.
Looking at the list of possible options and assuming all are equally likely then things remaining largely as they are for another few years at least and there being no disruption comes out on top.
But if the worst case comes to pass and the drawbridge is pulled up then there’s likely to be huge disruption for anyone flying in April. Even if the crazy legal situation of there being no basis for planes to fly is sorted within a week the airlines will take much longer than this to get their schedule straight again.
Since nobody knows it all depends how much of a gambler you are and what your personal predictions are for how things will go.
If you’re a pessimist then I wouldn’t risk booking a flight for summer at least.
If you’re an optimist then just live your life as you would if all this wasn’t happening.
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answered 12 hours ago
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2
What if I am a realist?
– Peter verleg
9 hours ago
3
Hope for the best but prepare for the worst. Keep an eye out to see if there are further developments which reduce or increase the risk. Always carry your passport when travelling internationally even if it's not strictly needed and make sure you have enough money to cover contingencies like being unable to travel at the planned time or on the planned route.
– Peter Green
9 hours ago
"following the elimination of most of Britain’s international agreements" Wasn't there some law passed soon after the Brexit vote which effectively turned all EU law into UK law in the UK, precisely to avoid disruption?
– a CVn
2 hours ago
add a comment |
2
What if I am a realist?
– Peter verleg
9 hours ago
3
Hope for the best but prepare for the worst. Keep an eye out to see if there are further developments which reduce or increase the risk. Always carry your passport when travelling internationally even if it's not strictly needed and make sure you have enough money to cover contingencies like being unable to travel at the planned time or on the planned route.
– Peter Green
9 hours ago
"following the elimination of most of Britain’s international agreements" Wasn't there some law passed soon after the Brexit vote which effectively turned all EU law into UK law in the UK, precisely to avoid disruption?
– a CVn
2 hours ago
2
2
What if I am a realist?
– Peter verleg
9 hours ago
What if I am a realist?
– Peter verleg
9 hours ago
3
3
Hope for the best but prepare for the worst. Keep an eye out to see if there are further developments which reduce or increase the risk. Always carry your passport when travelling internationally even if it's not strictly needed and make sure you have enough money to cover contingencies like being unable to travel at the planned time or on the planned route.
– Peter Green
9 hours ago
Hope for the best but prepare for the worst. Keep an eye out to see if there are further developments which reduce or increase the risk. Always carry your passport when travelling internationally even if it's not strictly needed and make sure you have enough money to cover contingencies like being unable to travel at the planned time or on the planned route.
– Peter Green
9 hours ago
"following the elimination of most of Britain’s international agreements" Wasn't there some law passed soon after the Brexit vote which effectively turned all EU law into UK law in the UK, precisely to avoid disruption?
– a CVn
2 hours ago
"following the elimination of most of Britain’s international agreements" Wasn't there some law passed soon after the Brexit vote which effectively turned all EU law into UK law in the UK, precisely to avoid disruption?
– a CVn
2 hours ago
add a comment |
While the other answers talk about the official requirements I would add that you should be prepared for a lot of confusion in the days following Brexit. The official policy of Eurostar or an airline may not match actual border policy and to make matters worse the front line employees may not be following the policy of the company they work for. Individual border agents may not even be clear on the official requirements.
If at all possible bring a passport as it's your best bet to get home smoothly.
add a comment |
While the other answers talk about the official requirements I would add that you should be prepared for a lot of confusion in the days following Brexit. The official policy of Eurostar or an airline may not match actual border policy and to make matters worse the front line employees may not be following the policy of the company they work for. Individual border agents may not even be clear on the official requirements.
If at all possible bring a passport as it's your best bet to get home smoothly.
add a comment |
While the other answers talk about the official requirements I would add that you should be prepared for a lot of confusion in the days following Brexit. The official policy of Eurostar or an airline may not match actual border policy and to make matters worse the front line employees may not be following the policy of the company they work for. Individual border agents may not even be clear on the official requirements.
If at all possible bring a passport as it's your best bet to get home smoothly.
While the other answers talk about the official requirements I would add that you should be prepared for a lot of confusion in the days following Brexit. The official policy of Eurostar or an airline may not match actual border policy and to make matters worse the front line employees may not be following the policy of the company they work for. Individual border agents may not even be clear on the official requirements.
If at all possible bring a passport as it's your best bet to get home smoothly.
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I'm flagging the question as primarily opinion-based because of the general uncertainty surrounding Brexit at this time.
– Ewige Studentin
13 hours ago
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Nobody knows, so this is unanswerable.
– David Richerby
11 hours ago
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I can't agree with the suggestions that this question should be closed. The UK's Department for Exiting the European Union has published policy on this topic, and while I don't believe that policy has legal force at this time it's certainly valuable information for OP to be made aware of. Even without that published policy, "the rules in this situation aren't yet clear" is a perfectly valid and useful answer to a question (if that is indeed the case). If the rules are unclear, that is the answer to the question, not a reason to close the question.
– Chris H
9 hours ago
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will stay for tourism a few extra days to "live" the Brexit, please avoid disaster tourism, at least until the dust has settled down.
– gerrit
9 hours ago
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@KeithLoughnane FYI you don't need a passport at the moment. Almost all EU countries issue national identity cards which can be used for intra-EU travel.
– Aaron F
8 hours ago