What's the earliest instance of a “Beauty is in the eye of the beholder” reference to beholders?
Is there any recorded use of the phrase, "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder" being used in a commercially available D&D campaign of any edition, specifically to reference (secretly or overtly) a beholder that appears in the course of the campaign? What's the earliest instance?
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Is there any recorded use of the phrase, "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder" being used in a commercially available D&D campaign of any edition, specifically to reference (secretly or overtly) a beholder that appears in the course of the campaign? What's the earliest instance?
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Related: Beauty and beholder in respect to other senses
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I've updated this to ask for the earliest instance since that will help us filter to a “best” answer rather than merely collecting an ongoing list of all the times it ever happened. (Which is probably a lot.)
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Is there any recorded use of the phrase, "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder" being used in a commercially available D&D campaign of any edition, specifically to reference (secretly or overtly) a beholder that appears in the course of the campaign? What's the earliest instance?
monsters dungeons-and-dragons history-of-gaming story
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Is there any recorded use of the phrase, "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder" being used in a commercially available D&D campaign of any edition, specifically to reference (secretly or overtly) a beholder that appears in the course of the campaign? What's the earliest instance?
monsters dungeons-and-dragons history-of-gaming story
monsters dungeons-and-dragons history-of-gaming story
edited 2 days ago
doppelgreener♦
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asked 2 days ago
lightcatlightcat
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edited 2 days ago
doppelgreener♦
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lightcatlightcat
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Looking for an answer drawing from credible and/or official sources.
Preference for (A)D&D gaming publications of any version, including rule books and published or commercially available campaigns. Will also accept any other D&D branded material, including games, video games, publications and marketing. Please include reference images if possible (with web link citation) and which publication the reference is from and the date, even if you think it's obvious.
This question has an open bounty worth +200
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Looking for an answer drawing from credible and/or official sources.
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Related: Beauty and beholder in respect to other senses
– Peter Mortensen
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I've updated this to ask for the earliest instance since that will help us filter to a “best” answer rather than merely collecting an ongoing list of all the times it ever happened. (Which is probably a lot.)
– doppelgreener♦
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@ShadowRanger At best that comment was chatting, and possibly it was attempting to answer the question. Neither usage are what the commenting feature is provided for, so your comment was removed. See this FAQ for more information. Thanks!
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Related: Beauty and beholder in respect to other senses
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I've updated this to ask for the earliest instance since that will help us filter to a “best” answer rather than merely collecting an ongoing list of all the times it ever happened. (Which is probably a lot.)
– doppelgreener♦
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Related: Beauty and beholder in respect to other senses
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I've updated this to ask for the earliest instance since that will help us filter to a “best” answer rather than merely collecting an ongoing list of all the times it ever happened. (Which is probably a lot.)
– doppelgreener♦
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I've updated this to ask for the earliest instance since that will help us filter to a “best” answer rather than merely collecting an ongoing list of all the times it ever happened. (Which is probably a lot.)
– doppelgreener♦
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@ShadowRanger At best that comment was chatting, and possibly it was attempting to answer the question. Neither usage are what the commenting feature is provided for, so your comment was removed. See this FAQ for more information. Thanks!
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The earliest reference is 1987
First time I heard it referenced in Dungeons and Dragons was in the 1987 Saturday morning cartoon.
It was Episode 2, The Eye of the Beholder, specifically at this point during their conversation with Dungeon Master.
Not really published though and not exactly canon.
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This does at least establish by precedent that it was very early on that the reference was occurring to people and being used.
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The earliest reference is 1988
Yamara was comic strip which appeared in Dragon magazine. The first strip published in May 1988 made this joke:
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The earliest reference is 1990
Not exactly a campaign but an early issue of Dragon magazine had a “cute” drawing of a beholder on the cover. The issue’s tagline is “Beauty is in the eye of — oh, skip it.” It was their 1990 April issue, #156:
Cover by Daniel Horne © TSR & WotC, used under Fair Use for teaching and cultural critique purposes
(This issue is in the tradition of April issues of Dragon being silly for April Fools’. If you ever wanted to encounter the dread Bubble Dragon or a herd of Blink Mammoths, this is your DM’s issue.)
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The earliest reference is 2017
The back cover of Xanathar's Guide to Everything for D&D 5E (lore-wise written by the beholder crime-lord "The Xanathar") has a similar phrase, though not exactly the same:
"Beauty and Guile Are in the Eyes of the Beholder"
From https://www.tsrarchive.com/5e/5e-hb-acc.html
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The earliest reference is 1987
First time I heard it referenced in Dungeons and Dragons was in the 1987 Saturday morning cartoon.
It was Episode 2, The Eye of the Beholder, specifically at this point during their conversation with Dungeon Master.
Not really published though and not exactly canon.
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This does at least establish by precedent that it was very early on that the reference was occurring to people and being used.
– doppelgreener♦
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The earliest reference is 1987
First time I heard it referenced in Dungeons and Dragons was in the 1987 Saturday morning cartoon.
It was Episode 2, The Eye of the Beholder, specifically at this point during their conversation with Dungeon Master.
Not really published though and not exactly canon.
edited 3 hours ago
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This does at least establish by precedent that it was very early on that the reference was occurring to people and being used.
– doppelgreener♦
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The earliest reference is 1987
First time I heard it referenced in Dungeons and Dragons was in the 1987 Saturday morning cartoon.
It was Episode 2, The Eye of the Beholder, specifically at this point during their conversation with Dungeon Master.
Not really published though and not exactly canon.
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The earliest reference is 1987
First time I heard it referenced in Dungeons and Dragons was in the 1987 Saturday morning cartoon.
It was Episode 2, The Eye of the Beholder, specifically at this point during their conversation with Dungeon Master.
Not really published though and not exactly canon.
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This does at least establish by precedent that it was very early on that the reference was occurring to people and being used.
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This does at least establish by precedent that it was very early on that the reference was occurring to people and being used.
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This does at least establish by precedent that it was very early on that the reference was occurring to people and being used.
– doppelgreener♦
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The earliest reference is 1988
Yamara was comic strip which appeared in Dragon magazine. The first strip published in May 1988 made this joke:
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The earliest reference is 1988
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The earliest reference is 1988
Yamara was comic strip which appeared in Dragon magazine. The first strip published in May 1988 made this joke:
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The earliest reference is 1988
Yamara was comic strip which appeared in Dragon magazine. The first strip published in May 1988 made this joke:
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The earliest reference is 1990
Not exactly a campaign but an early issue of Dragon magazine had a “cute” drawing of a beholder on the cover. The issue’s tagline is “Beauty is in the eye of — oh, skip it.” It was their 1990 April issue, #156:
Cover by Daniel Horne © TSR & WotC, used under Fair Use for teaching and cultural critique purposes
(This issue is in the tradition of April issues of Dragon being silly for April Fools’. If you ever wanted to encounter the dread Bubble Dragon or a herd of Blink Mammoths, this is your DM’s issue.)
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The earliest reference is 1990
Not exactly a campaign but an early issue of Dragon magazine had a “cute” drawing of a beholder on the cover. The issue’s tagline is “Beauty is in the eye of — oh, skip it.” It was their 1990 April issue, #156:
Cover by Daniel Horne © TSR & WotC, used under Fair Use for teaching and cultural critique purposes
(This issue is in the tradition of April issues of Dragon being silly for April Fools’. If you ever wanted to encounter the dread Bubble Dragon or a herd of Blink Mammoths, this is your DM’s issue.)
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The earliest reference is 1990
Not exactly a campaign but an early issue of Dragon magazine had a “cute” drawing of a beholder on the cover. The issue’s tagline is “Beauty is in the eye of — oh, skip it.” It was their 1990 April issue, #156:
Cover by Daniel Horne © TSR & WotC, used under Fair Use for teaching and cultural critique purposes
(This issue is in the tradition of April issues of Dragon being silly for April Fools’. If you ever wanted to encounter the dread Bubble Dragon or a herd of Blink Mammoths, this is your DM’s issue.)
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The earliest reference is 1990
Not exactly a campaign but an early issue of Dragon magazine had a “cute” drawing of a beholder on the cover. The issue’s tagline is “Beauty is in the eye of — oh, skip it.” It was their 1990 April issue, #156:
Cover by Daniel Horne © TSR & WotC, used under Fair Use for teaching and cultural critique purposes
(This issue is in the tradition of April issues of Dragon being silly for April Fools’. If you ever wanted to encounter the dread Bubble Dragon or a herd of Blink Mammoths, this is your DM’s issue.)
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The earliest reference is 2017
The back cover of Xanathar's Guide to Everything for D&D 5E (lore-wise written by the beholder crime-lord "The Xanathar") has a similar phrase, though not exactly the same:
"Beauty and Guile Are in the Eyes of the Beholder"
From https://www.tsrarchive.com/5e/5e-hb-acc.html
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The earliest reference is 2017
The back cover of Xanathar's Guide to Everything for D&D 5E (lore-wise written by the beholder crime-lord "The Xanathar") has a similar phrase, though not exactly the same:
"Beauty and Guile Are in the Eyes of the Beholder"
From https://www.tsrarchive.com/5e/5e-hb-acc.html
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The earliest reference is 2017
The back cover of Xanathar's Guide to Everything for D&D 5E (lore-wise written by the beholder crime-lord "The Xanathar") has a similar phrase, though not exactly the same:
"Beauty and Guile Are in the Eyes of the Beholder"
From https://www.tsrarchive.com/5e/5e-hb-acc.html
edited 3 hours ago
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The earliest reference is 2017
The back cover of Xanathar's Guide to Everything for D&D 5E (lore-wise written by the beholder crime-lord "The Xanathar") has a similar phrase, though not exactly the same:
"Beauty and Guile Are in the Eyes of the Beholder"
From https://www.tsrarchive.com/5e/5e-hb-acc.html
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Related: Beauty and beholder in respect to other senses
– Peter Mortensen
2 days ago
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I've updated this to ask for the earliest instance since that will help us filter to a “best” answer rather than merely collecting an ongoing list of all the times it ever happened. (Which is probably a lot.)
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@ShadowRanger At best that comment was chatting, and possibly it was attempting to answer the question. Neither usage are what the commenting feature is provided for, so your comment was removed. See this FAQ for more information. Thanks!
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