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    Two things: math was far ahead of nearly all fields of science in its rigor and procedures until relatively recently; and in nearly all cases "nonprofessionals" were right in a tiny percentage of their beliefs. They were correct by accident, not by insight.
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    Two things: math was far ahead of nearly all fields of science in its rigor and procedures until relatively recently; and in nearly all cases "nonprofessionals" were right in a tiny percentage of their beliefs. They were correct by accident, not by insight.
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    Two things: math was far ahead of nearly all fields of science in its rigor and procedures until relatively recently; and in nearly all cases "nonprofessionals" were right in a tiny percentage of their beliefs. They were correct by accident, not by insight.
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Two things: math was far ahead of nearly all fields of science in its rigor and procedures until relatively recently; and in nearly all cases "nonprofessionals" were right in a tiny percentage of their beliefs. They were correct by accident, not by insight.
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Just warning not to include pre-1920s medicine (and a lot of medical mantra thru the 20th century), as there was little to no science involved amongst physicians. Just look at how difficult it was for Lister et. al. to convince hospitals, midwives, etc. to wash their hands and sterilize operating theatres.



There are dozens of incorrect anecdotes purporting to show scientists were wrong. The "bumblebee can't fly" is one such. The truth behind the science/engineering theories is rather different.






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    Take meteorites, for instance. For millennia, educated people “knew” that no rock found on Earth could possibly have fallen from the sky, in spite of the evidence (eyewitnesses included) for their existence. This state of affairs lasted until 1803, when Jean-Baptiste Biot established the reality of meteorites.






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      It seems ball lightning was disbelieved by scientists until around 1960. See Wikipedia .



      I knew a geologist who told us how his eye-witness account of ball lightning had been ridiculed.






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        The Green Flash was
        described for the first time (at least in the Western literature) by Jules Verne,
        a science fiction writer.
        Many scientists did not believe until photographs were taken and published.



        Herbert Wells in 1914 described the use of nuclear energy for both bombs and peaceful applications. (His novel The world Set Free). At approximately the same time many scientists thought this was impossible.
        (Rutherford is on record for saying this publicly, that nuclear energy will be never used).






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          Just warning not to include pre-1920s medicine (and a lot of medical mantra thru the 20th century), as there was little to no science involved amongst physicians. Just look at how difficult it was for Lister et. al. to convince hospitals, midwives, etc. to wash their hands and sterilize operating theatres.



          There are dozens of incorrect anecdotes purporting to show scientists were wrong. The "bumblebee can't fly" is one such. The truth behind the science/engineering theories is rather different.






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            Just warning not to include pre-1920s medicine (and a lot of medical mantra thru the 20th century), as there was little to no science involved amongst physicians. Just look at how difficult it was for Lister et. al. to convince hospitals, midwives, etc. to wash their hands and sterilize operating theatres.



            There are dozens of incorrect anecdotes purporting to show scientists were wrong. The "bumblebee can't fly" is one such. The truth behind the science/engineering theories is rather different.






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              Just warning not to include pre-1920s medicine (and a lot of medical mantra thru the 20th century), as there was little to no science involved amongst physicians. Just look at how difficult it was for Lister et. al. to convince hospitals, midwives, etc. to wash their hands and sterilize operating theatres.



              There are dozens of incorrect anecdotes purporting to show scientists were wrong. The "bumblebee can't fly" is one such. The truth behind the science/engineering theories is rather different.






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              Just warning not to include pre-1920s medicine (and a lot of medical mantra thru the 20th century), as there was little to no science involved amongst physicians. Just look at how difficult it was for Lister et. al. to convince hospitals, midwives, etc. to wash their hands and sterilize operating theatres.



              There are dozens of incorrect anecdotes purporting to show scientists were wrong. The "bumblebee can't fly" is one such. The truth behind the science/engineering theories is rather different.







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                  Take meteorites, for instance. For millennia, educated people “knew” that no rock found on Earth could possibly have fallen from the sky, in spite of the evidence (eyewitnesses included) for their existence. This state of affairs lasted until 1803, when Jean-Baptiste Biot established the reality of meteorites.






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                    Take meteorites, for instance. For millennia, educated people “knew” that no rock found on Earth could possibly have fallen from the sky, in spite of the evidence (eyewitnesses included) for their existence. This state of affairs lasted until 1803, when Jean-Baptiste Biot established the reality of meteorites.






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                      Take meteorites, for instance. For millennia, educated people “knew” that no rock found on Earth could possibly have fallen from the sky, in spite of the evidence (eyewitnesses included) for their existence. This state of affairs lasted until 1803, when Jean-Baptiste Biot established the reality of meteorites.






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                      Take meteorites, for instance. For millennia, educated people “knew” that no rock found on Earth could possibly have fallen from the sky, in spite of the evidence (eyewitnesses included) for their existence. This state of affairs lasted until 1803, when Jean-Baptiste Biot established the reality of meteorites.







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                          It seems ball lightning was disbelieved by scientists until around 1960. See Wikipedia .



                          I knew a geologist who told us how his eye-witness account of ball lightning had been ridiculed.






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                            I knew a geologist who told us how his eye-witness account of ball lightning had been ridiculed.






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                              It seems ball lightning was disbelieved by scientists until around 1960. See Wikipedia .



                              I knew a geologist who told us how his eye-witness account of ball lightning had been ridiculed.






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                              It seems ball lightning was disbelieved by scientists until around 1960. See Wikipedia .



                              I knew a geologist who told us how his eye-witness account of ball lightning had been ridiculed.







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                                  The Green Flash was
                                  described for the first time (at least in the Western literature) by Jules Verne,
                                  a science fiction writer.
                                  Many scientists did not believe until photographs were taken and published.



                                  Herbert Wells in 1914 described the use of nuclear energy for both bombs and peaceful applications. (His novel The world Set Free). At approximately the same time many scientists thought this was impossible.
                                  (Rutherford is on record for saying this publicly, that nuclear energy will be never used).






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                                    The Green Flash was
                                    described for the first time (at least in the Western literature) by Jules Verne,
                                    a science fiction writer.
                                    Many scientists did not believe until photographs were taken and published.



                                    Herbert Wells in 1914 described the use of nuclear energy for both bombs and peaceful applications. (His novel The world Set Free). At approximately the same time many scientists thought this was impossible.
                                    (Rutherford is on record for saying this publicly, that nuclear energy will be never used).






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                                      The Green Flash was
                                      described for the first time (at least in the Western literature) by Jules Verne,
                                      a science fiction writer.
                                      Many scientists did not believe until photographs were taken and published.



                                      Herbert Wells in 1914 described the use of nuclear energy for both bombs and peaceful applications. (His novel The world Set Free). At approximately the same time many scientists thought this was impossible.
                                      (Rutherford is on record for saying this publicly, that nuclear energy will be never used).






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                                      The Green Flash was
                                      described for the first time (at least in the Western literature) by Jules Verne,
                                      a science fiction writer.
                                      Many scientists did not believe until photographs were taken and published.



                                      Herbert Wells in 1914 described the use of nuclear energy for both bombs and peaceful applications. (His novel The world Set Free). At approximately the same time many scientists thought this was impossible.
                                      (Rutherford is on record for saying this publicly, that nuclear energy will be never used).







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